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Ah. Thank you."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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Brian Branch ran a 4.58. Not good for a 190 lb. DB. A lot of edge rushers ran faster than that.I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
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I've made clear I don't follow this stuff like I used to, so my observations are pretty half-ass. So here's another half-ass observation: based on what I've read about Branch so far, he's really not that exciting of a prospect. I'm struggling to figure out how he could be a first round pick, based on what I've read so far.Originally posted by Joemailman View Post"The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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Lukas Van Ness should be considered a real favorite for Packers pick at #15. Vertical jump only weak spot.
I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard CohenComment
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A slow Safety class.
I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard CohenComment
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There are very few truly elite WR that can't run a 4.4 and Jaxon didn't run it so that tells you all you need to knowOriginally posted by call_me_ishmael View PostThe only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince LombardiComment
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Literally just read an article that said Gutes hasn't drafted an edge without a 36" vertical. Seems crazy. Maybe I read it wrong.Originally posted by Joemailman View PostLukas Van Ness should be considered a real favorite for Packers pick at #15. Vertical jump only weak spot.
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Gary was 37. Enagbare was 36.5.Originally posted by bobblehead View PostI can't run no more with that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard CohenComment
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Garvin?"There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted ThompsonComment
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Don’t think he’s going to be elite. He’s going to bed Greg Jennings, which is pretty darn good.Originally posted by bobblehead View PostComment
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36Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View PostI can't run no more with that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard CohenComment
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Thats fair...and if you could be sure of Greg Jennings career you would pick him in the first every time.Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View PostThe only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince LombardiComment
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Those are some crazy verts for big men. I guess it has to do with explosion out of the stance. If Van Ness had a poor vertical I doubt Gutes takes him.
Considering the average vertical in the NBA is under 30" thats just crazy.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince LombardiComment
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Thing about Van Ness is he was a rotational player, not really even a starter, and he's so raw he just rushes without a plan -- it's all bull rush.
He could be Rashan Gary by Year 3 or he could be Vernon Gholston. Personally, I'd look at some other EDGE prospects who tested well but had more production. If Rodgers comes back I don't think you want to spend a pick on a guy who is a project and isn't very good or playable while Rodgers is here.
Jaxon Smith-Njigba doesn't strike me as being a lights-out athlete, but he has a knack for getting open. With a couple of other receiving threats he could be really good, he's kind of like a Randall Cobb -- able to be a good #2 but not a guy you can probably win with at the X or as your WR1. If we have a QB willing to throw into the middle of the field on schedule JSN could be a really good get. I think his ability to find soft spots in a zone and get a couple of yards of YAC is there on the pro-level. He's not Deebo though.
The Jalen Carter news is going to make a lot of teams in the top 10 go back and dig into this. The NFL has security people who are as good as the FBI, they'll find out if he's trouble or not. The drag racing thing is a BIG red flag. Will Anderson is likely the top pick now.
Overall good DL/EDGE groups so at this point the R1 pick could be there. Not thrilled about how the Safeties did, I think some of them play faster than they were timed but it's a concern. Brian Branch is.... ok. He's probably a slot corner and I'm not sure I'd take him at 15. Honestly, I'd rather trade down and pick up an extra pick to move around in mid rounds and grab a guy they like who might fall. I think they'll take a safety, but now maybe not before Round 3. I could see them go EDGE, TE, S, DL, WR, OL, etc. and pick a K in late Day 3.Comment
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There were only a handful of safeties who tested well. One of them included my sleeper Jason Taylor of Oklahoma State:
Jartavius Martin = 5'11" 194, 4.46 40, 1.47 10, 44" vert, 133" broad jump
Jason Taylor = 6'0" 204, 4.50 40, 1.52 10, 43" vert, 129" broad jump
Sydney Brown = 5'10" 211, 4.47 40, 1.51 10, 40.5" vert, 130" broad jump
Daniel Scott = 6'1" 208, 4.45 40, 1.55 10, 39.5" vert, 128" broad jump, 4.17 shuttle, 6.75 3 cone
Chamarri Conner = 6'0" 202, 4.51 40, 1.56 10, 40 1/2" vert, 125" broad jump
Note: only 2 safeties did the 3 cone and shuttle (Daniel Scott and Brandon Joseph)."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted ThompsonComment
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