Official 2023 NFL Draft Thread

[RashanGary]

He has a website where you can do some RAS comparisons and dig thru old RAS cards. Have you seen that?

https://ras.football/

I think the scores are custom to timeframe, they are the scores as of and up to that year- a player considered an elite athlete 10 years ago might be above average now. Am I misunderstanding you?

I don’t know if the swing would be that drastic, but guys are generally doing better now, so a high score now is a little better than 10 years ago.

[run pMc]

Many players are skipping drills which can inflate their score, plus the science and training keeps getting better. I'd expect the scores to be skewed higher toward more recent college players.

If I have a great 40, vert and broad jump, I'm certainly fast and explosive...and result in a nice high RAS.
It doesn't say anything about my agility and if I don't test those at the combine or pro day my RAS doesn't take a dent or get an asterisk.
Personally I think players should just default get a '5' on any drill they don't test in.

The scores are compared by position over all time, so there are more players/scores. A high score now is just as impressive as the same score 10 years ago... it attempts to be a relative score. Relative to the era and other players. It might not be relative comparing players across say...20 years because players are slightly more athletic now.

I suspect we're saying similar things.

[RashanGary]

We have the 13th pick now. That’s a couple player jump. Maybe we get a couple first round picks to a team that wants a QB.

[Fritz]

Guter does not seem afraid to jump around. We'll see who's there at #13. And then we'll know what Guter thinks of the players available at that spot, whether he takes one or trades down.

[Deputy Nutz]

We have the 13th pick now. That’s a couple player jump. Maybe we get a couple first round picks to a team that wants a QB.

Only way it was really worth giving up the 5th round pick is if the Packers move the 13th for more draft capitol.

[Joemailman]

Only way it was really worth giving up the 5th round pick is if the Packers move the 13th for more draft capitol.

Or they have a specific player in mind they want and thought the Jets might want the same player.

[Deputy Nutz]

I'll be curious to see what Harvey says, but I think that while he's not uber-athletic he's got range to the sideline. I think he's athletic and instinctive enough to be a solid pro. He's not Luke Kuechley but he looks like a guy you could pick up on Day 2 and plug him into the lineup for 8-10 years. Side note: Peter Bukowski has a lot of hot takes, and many of them are bad IMO. To me, he's borderline clickbait.

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One guy I'm just getting around to watching is Josh Whyle. GB brought him in for a visit and he's... better than I was expecting. I thought he'd be some late round schmuck, but I could see him as the Tonyan replacement. He's still a Day 3 guy but I wouldn't be mad if they drafted him.

Well I am not Harvey, and although I do like the testing numbers and size of Campbell I am not sure that that those measurables show up on film. He is not great against the zone schemes, much better against gap runs than zone. Doesn't get off blocks very well, at least against Iowa St and Kentucky. Also in those games he seems a bit slow on his reads and again needs to do a much better job of engaging at the right time with offensive linemen and then getting off the block to make a play. He is rarely the first guy to the ball in those two films. Reminds me of AJ Hawk in the NFL, not terrible but leaves you expecting and wanting more considering their athleticism.

[Teamcheez1]

Only way it was really worth giving up the 5th round pick is if the Packers move the 13th for more draft capitol.

This is where I’m at. We may be in the right position for someone to move up and draft a QB. We’ll have to see how the board falls. We could certainly pick up some good players to fill some holes by moving down.

[sharpe1027]

You can't know whether 13 or 15 makes a difference until you see how the draft unfolds. It's not just about trade value either. A player you really like could make it to 13 but not 15.

End of the day, you'll do better on average with 13 instead of 15. Ya gotta get value where you can, even if it's not guaranteed.

[Bretsky]

You can't know whether 13 or 15 makes a difference until you see how the draft unfolds. It's not just about trade value either. A player you really like could make it to 13 but not 15.

End of the day, you'll do better on average with 13 instead of 15. Ya gotta get value where you can, even if it's not guaranteed.

It would be really funny if the OSA WR fell to us

He is the perfect fit.

A WR in ROUND ONE !!!!!!!!!!!!

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It would be really funny if the OSA WR fell to us

He is the perfect fit.

A WR in ROUND ONE !!!!!!!!!!!!

that would seem about right, draft defense in the first for as long as i can remember while you're fans are screaming for you to get your QB some help

then finally spend a first on a WR a few days after you get rid of the guy

[Fritz]

You can't know whether 13 or 15 makes a difference until you see how the draft unfolds. It's not just about trade value either. A player you really like could make it to 13 but not 15.

End of the day, you'll do better on average with 13 instead of 15. Ya gotta get value where you can, even if it's not guaranteed.

Just saw an article on ACME that the Steelers are itching to move up from 17 to get an offensive tackle. Don’t know what the Packers’ plan is, but that would be an option in terms of trading back and picking up an extra third or fourth or whatever it would be.

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Just saw an article on ACME that the Steelers are itching to move up from 17 to get an offensive tackle. Don’t know what the Packers’ plan is, but that would be an option in terms of trading back and picking up an extra third or fourth or whatever it would be.

i'd rather stay put and draft our own top OT

[Deputy Nutz]

Not a huge fan of drafting an offensive tackle in the first round, and not a fan of using the 13th pick on an offensive tackle. I think this draft has some depth at the position and you can get really good value in round 2 or round 3.

None of these receivers are worth moving into the 13th pick to draft. Maybe a Edge player like Miles Murphy or Wilson would make sense. Maybe one of the top corners if they fell but let someone else trade up with you that actually needs those dudes.

[sharpe1027]

Just saw an article on ACME that the Steelers are itching to move up from 17 to get an offensive tackle. Don’t know what the Packers’ plan is, but that would be an option in terms of trading back and picking up an extra third or fourth or whatever it would be.

Should be a late third, which they don't have.