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**run pMc** · 10-23-2022, 09:03 AM

Rodgers is a complicated fella.

Hard to blame the team for giving him the contract he wanted given back to back MVPs, but he hasn't played well this year. The OL shares some blame -- he hasn't had a lot of time to find open receivers, and there are many many times where he isn't seeing them when open or just throwing inaccurate passes. This season the offense reminds me of McCarthy's last year which is very troubling and makes me think MLF has to be a little less predictable with their plays. CJ Mosley was practically running the crossing routes for the receivers.

I don't think the team really has any power to do anything with Rodgers or his contract. I don't think he wants to retire the same year as Brady, but I don't think he has many seasons left. I think he's done after next season and then GB has a 2 year window of hell with cap situation and searching for a new QB.

**texaspackerbacker** · 10-23-2022, 09:21 AM

That is stupid. It's nothing more than typical fake news bullshit from media assholes. Fuck 'em all, even the less bad ones. May they die painfully and soon before they can stir up more trouble.

**Fritz** · 10-23-2022, 09:33 AM

Tex, the article is quoting a couple of personnel guys and an NFL GM. So are you saying the writer of the article never talked to these people and is making it all up?

Run, you do at least make a good point about the offensive line. It's been awful. Clean that up and Rodgers will be better.
Bo
But can it be cleaned up? What the hell?

It's too late to go back on the commitment to Rodgers, but they sure are in Super-Bowl-or-Bust mode - as so many of you Rats have been begging for.

So you got what you wanted. So far, it's not exactly working out. But it is a long season, so we'll see.

**beveaux1** · 10-23-2022, 09:44 AM

I'd need more evidence than that article gave to explain Rodgers' struggles. I'm more inclined to believe that playing with no WR threat and a much-weakened OL are the biggest factors.

I'm not discounting the fact that he has 39-year-old legs and can't run like he used to, but looking at facial expressions is a little weak after 6 games.

**Fritz** · 10-23-2022, 10:10 AM

Valid points, Beveaux.

I still think the biggest immediate issue is this defense because it's the second year of the scheme and the GM has dumped loads of resources on that side of the ball. But the offense has sucked, probably in good part the o-line, and the special teams is its usual sucky self despite the acclaimed ST coach.

Something's just off about the whole team this year.

But I think Rodgers is not leading them out of the mess. He seems part and parcel of the mess. For $105 million guaranteed, I'd expect him to be a little more of a solid figure, both in his play and his words. But we seem to be back to ol' Passive-Aggressive Guy.

**beveaux1** · 10-23-2022, 10:40 AM

I agree that the front office expected the defense to carry this team, at least through the first half of the season, while the offense went through its growing pains.

They poured huge resources into that side of the ball and have not had the results they expected.

I don't think they expected the problems on the OL. I also don't think they expected the injury problems of Watson, basically wasting his rookie year development.

If they don't get most of these problems cleaned up, it will be a long, poor year for the Pack.

**red** · 10-23-2022, 10:55 AM

i was pretty upset after reading the interview he gave wednesday or thursday when he "clarified" his "simplify the offense" comment.

i'll see if i can find the article again

he basically said he wants to get rid of all the motion and whatnot and fancy schemes, the things many of us have been screaming that we need to do more of. and instead just line up so he can look over the defense and figure out what he wants to do.

this is the same type of crap that we had at the end of the fat mike era, where we were pretty much just running a playground offense. mccarthy gave in, the offense got worse, and it cost him his job.

then the kid coach comes in and tries to change things, and the offense looks much better for 2 or 3 years, then it starts to look more and more like that offense at the end of fat mikes reign.

not he wants to simplify it ever more

IMO, at this point, he's either trying to get the team to trade him out of town or flat out cut him so he can go somewhere where he has total control over the offense

**red** · 10-23-2022, 11:00 AM

here's the article

Aaron Rodgers thinks he can fix the Packers' broken offense. Should Matt LaFleur hand him the keys?

https://sports.yahoo.com/aaron-rodgers-thinks-he-can-fix-the-packers-broken-offense-should-matt-la-fleur-hand-him-the-keys-014315429.html

What's the problem with Green Bay's offense, players or the scheme? There's one simple way to settle the debate.

and i do not agree with the idea that we should "hand the keys" to rodgers

**Fritz** · 10-23-2022, 11:05 AM

It would be funny as hell to watch Rodgers kneel down in the huddle and use his forefinger to draw on the palm of his hand what routes he wants the receivers to run, like we did back in the day.

**red** · 10-23-2022, 11:08 AM

Originally posted by Fritz View Post

It would be funny as hell to watch Rodgers kneel down in the huddle and use his forefinger to draw on the palm of his hand what routes he wants the receivers to run, like we did back in the day.

"i want you to go out 5 yards, then cut all the way across the field, then run a loop, come back to mid field, then go deep"

and fall down and fake being hurt at some point

**beveaux1** · 10-23-2022, 11:55 AM

This is a very good podcast, if you haven't seen it. Really damning about MLF and his coaching staff.

https://youtu.be/poZvdJyUQT0

**texaspackerbacker** · 10-23-2022, 11:57 AM

Originally posted by Fritz View Post

Tex, the article is quoting a couple of personnel guys and an NFL GM. So are you saying the writer of the article never talked to these people and is making it all up?

Run, you do at least make a good point about the offensive line. It's been awful. Clean that up and Rodgers will be better.
Bo
But can it be cleaned up? What the hell?

It's too late to go back on the commitment to Rodgers, but they sure are in Super-Bowl-or-Bust mode - as so many of you Rats have been begging for.

So you got what you wanted. So far, it's not exactly working out. But it is a long season, so we'll see.

Does it occur to you that this imbecile who wrote the thing if from the place of the team we play today? Hell yeah, it wouldn't surprise me in the least is he is misquoting, cherry picking, or just play making up shit - and all designed to stir up trouble. ALL of that is what the God damned media shitheads do.

And it's somewhere between humorous and just plain sick that some people in here - or in the God damned media for that matter - think they have a remote idea what's in Rodgers' head.

And talk about regretting re-signing/retaining Rodgers? That's just idiotic. With anybody but him at QB, the team would be in the toilet - the future 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, or more years when he's gone.

**Bretsky** · 10-23-2022, 12:01 PM

Go and listen to all of Redgers recent interviews; he wants to be Payton Manning in his prime when he walked to the line of scrimmage and ran the show.
That's not what the HC wants. The HC brushed off his make things simpler comment. Those to are not seeing eye to eye. And it never helps that Sharon is the smartest person in the world

I feel bad for the HC....just a bit. He's got a DC and a QB he can't really control.

**texaspackerbacker** · 10-23-2022, 12:03 PM

He thinks ....., he wants ......, you know this how? Sheeeesh.

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