Peter Bukowski vs John Kuhn Twitter Fight

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Now packer fans are calling Christian Watson soft and made of glass to his mom and dad on Twitter. Fucking idiots.

I do not tweet, but, until he proves otherwise, Watson is indeed soft and apparently made of glass. In fact, Watson is softer than a gay guy in a brothel fulfill of women. He is more fragile than a carton of eggs.

At least they ain’t tweeting death threats. Football is an insignificant game in the grand scale of fucks. Death threats at players are stupid.

[Fritz]

Montana was < Steve Young.

I"d have to agree with you here. I don't think Steve Young got the credit he deserved.

[Joemailman]

Yeah. I can't agree. AR led the 2010 team. That defense played very well, but Eric Walden/Frank Zombo? top five? Close. It was his best defense in 15 years: I'll definitely give you that. And only one of two to compare with Montana's "norm". Not close. Craig, Owens, Stokes, Rice, Dwight Clark, etc. etc. It's not really a discussion. It's easy to carve up other teams with that talent in that system. AR has done it with lots less. So, I just can't be impressed. This taints Brady's career as well, just as Marino was decades ago the-what-could-have-been.

The 1987 Niners loss and several before that: all top five defenses. How many top 1? Montana gets no criticism and had an all time all star cast and team. Lot of QBs thrive there. I honestly don't remember a bad performance by AR in the playoffs: it was good or great, given the circumstances. The Goat of all time got crushed two years in a row by the Giants. I missed him. This is just my opinion, but I have AR a head above Montana and Steve Young (who I did get to see). Elway was always overrated: and I saw plenty of him.

And that's gotta be a typo. AR "bailed out" by the defense. Which road game did he fail in that playoffs. He was 9tds 2ints. The AR hate has reached absurd levels: it's clear there is one standard for AR and a completely nother one for every other QB. Joe Cool suffered one of the worst defeats in playoff history, but it was not his fault? He had as many int's that game as AR in the four postseason games in 2010. He was too good to be bailed out? Was it his number one defense that failed him? Jerry Rice? Roger Craig? Who prevented Montana with one of the best start casts in the history of the game to fail? Not to mention Young outshining him when he went down.

I just take it as some golden boy idol worship of years long ago, without perspective and a bit of green eyed myopic shortsightedness.

edit: No. I said AR would have had MORE bling than Joe or Brady.

He was certainly bailed out by the defense in the NFC Title game vs the Bears. Rodgers had 2 INT's and a passer rating of 55.4. He was also bailed out by the defense in the last game of the regular season vs the Bears which the Packers needed just to make the playoffs. Rodgers wasn't terrible, but the offense only produced 10 points in a 10-3 win.

[Freak Out]

Montana was a very good QB. Sure the 49ers had a solid D and great coaching but he was the difference on many occasions. Way different game then as well.

[run pMc]

Now packer fans are calling Christian Watson soft and made of glass to his mom and dad on Twitter. Fucking idiots.

Players may be injury prone, but I will not call a pro football player soft.
Those are grown dudes running into each other repeatedly at full speed on a weekly basis, often enduring horrible injuries without really allowing their bodies to fully recover.
Some of the injuries these guys return from would reduce a normal person's ability to fully function. I have a friend who blew out his Achilles five years ago and he'll never be right.

I get that these guys get great medical care and are genetic freaks but it's a brutal sport.

Turning on Watson and going after his family is tasteless and just shows how awful some people are.

That said, I heard Watson has had 2 knee procedures in college, plus another this year to go with 2 hamstring injuries and concussion. It's basically wrecked this season for him and I hope he recovers and learns to stay healthy. Gute traded away two R2 picks for him and they are counting on him long-term.
I do wonder if he will be able to stay healthy, and what his legs will be like at age 28.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Players may be injury prone, but I will not call a pro football player soft.
Those are grown dudes running into each other repeatedly at full speed on a weekly basis, often enduring horrible injuries without really allowing their bodies to fully recover.
Some of the injuries these guys return from would reduce a normal person's ability to fully function. I have a friend who blew out his Achilles five years ago and he'll never be right.

I get that these guys get great medical care and are genetic freaks but it's a brutal sport.

Turning on Watson and going after his family is tasteless and just shows how awful some people are.

That said, I heard Watson has had 2 knee procedures in college, plus another this year to go with 2 hamstring injuries and concussion. It's basically wrecked this season for him and I hope he recovers and learns to stay healthy. Gute traded away two R2 picks for him and they are counting on him long-term.
I do wonder if he will be able to stay healthy, and what his legs will be like at age 28.

The person laboring on her feet for 10 hours a day, 4 days a week on a bad back and a bad hip out of self-preservation - all for the fucking minimum-wage - defines the person whose body isn’t being allowed to fully recover.

Watson gets an all-expense paid knee surgery; gets as much time off as he needed. Pulls a hammy in practice; gets as much time off as he needed while being paid sumptuous sums. Plays in a 3 hours game where he’s standing idly on the sidelines 85% of the time, hits his head; gets as much time off as he needed. All with all-expense paid, top-notch medical care.

Dude, someone should check to see if Watson has balls. Cos, until he proves otherwise, Watson is the definition of a fucking milksop.

[texaspackerbacker]

hahahaha Is your pronoun "her" now?

[Anti-Polar Bear]

hahahaha Is your pronoun "her" now?

See Onion Thread in FYI.

[bobblehead]

Montana was < Steve Young.

2 very different QBs. I think both were great for different reasons. Montana made the playoffs and I think an AFCC game with the chiefs well after his sell by date. Yes, he played under a great coach and had very good defenses and talent around him....seems that all QBs that go down as great do. Rodgers only Owl was with the #2 defense in the league. Of the last like 20 Owl winners every defense was top 5 but one I think.

[bobblehead]

Yeah. I can't agree. AR led the 2010 team. That defense played very well, but Eric Walden/Frank Zombo? top five? Close. It was his best defense in 15 years: I'll definitely give you that. And only one of two to compare with Montana's "norm". Not close. Craig, Owens, Stokes, Rice, Dwight Clark, etc. etc. It's not really a discussion. It's easy to carve up other teams with that talent in that system. AR has done it with lots less. So, I just can't be impressed. This taints Brady's career as well, just as Marino was decades ago the-what-could-have-been.

The 1987 Niners loss and several before that: all top five defenses. How many top 1? Montana gets no criticism and had an all time all star cast and team. Lot of QBs thrive there. I honestly don't remember a bad performance by AR in the playoffs: it was good or great, given the circumstances. The Goat of all time got crushed two years in a row by the Giants. I missed him. This is just my opinion, but I have AR a head above Montana and Steve Young (who I did get to see). Elway was always overrated: and I saw plenty of him.

And that's gotta be a typo. AR "bailed out" by the defense. Which road game did he fail in that playoffs. He was 9tds 2ints. The AR hate has reached absurd levels: it's clear there is one standard for AR and a completely nother one for every other QB. Joe Cool suffered one of the worst defeats in playoff history, but it was not his fault? He had as many int's that game as AR in the four postseason games in 2010. He was too good to be bailed out? Was it his number one defense that failed him? Jerry Rice? Roger Craig? Who prevented Montana with one of the best start casts in the history of the game to fail? Not to mention Young outshining him when he went down.

I just take it as some golden boy idol worship of years long ago, without perspective and a bit of green eyed myopic shortsightedness.

edit: No. I said AR would have had MORE bling than Joe or Brady.

You must have missed his stellar performance the very game before we won the Owl against the Chicago Bears. By Rodgers own admission his best play of the game was a tackle after he nearly threw a pick 6 that would have cost us the one Owl he achieved.

[bobblehead]

He was certainly bailed out by the defense in the NFC Title game vs the Bears. Rodgers had 2 INT's and a passer rating of 55.4. He was also bailed out by the defense in the last game of the regular season vs the Bears which the Packers needed just to make the playoffs. Rodgers wasn't terrible, but the offense only produced 10 points in a 10-3 win.

Stop with your facts and logic....we won't have that here!!

[Bretsky]

Stop with your facts and logic....we won't have that here!!

I'm not bowing to Rodgers anymore; he's made plenty of f'ck ups in the playoffs lately and this year he's been part of the problem. Add in a contract that was great for Sharon, and not necessarily great for the Packers, as well as how his waffling and drama helped lead to Devante leaving, to me it's clear that probably should have traded his ass. I was very on the fence on this one; but when all the reports came out at what Denver was offering I was conservatively game. I'm done with his passive agressive interviews with his tool (which honestly his I'm smarter than you interviews helps nobody) and to be honest every since he became our Assistant GB so far it's been a lot of bad.