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  • #61
    Bears claimed a bunch of players from other team's final cutdowns. That tells you about their overall talent level.
    Having cap space and draft capital will help them rebuild faster, but it will be interesting to see if they think Fields will be part of that, and if Claypool was worth it. They gave up what looks to be a Top 50 pick for him which is valuable for a rebuilding team.
    And no, I probably wouldn't have signed Roquan to a crazy top dollar deal either. Good player, but he wasn't Urlacher. I'm not sure he's even Lavonte David.

    I don't think Robert Quinn had a lot of help on the DL, and he's getting older. Still a good player but if you're going to be a seller and you can get something for him I get it.

    The selling made the Claypool trade more curious IMO. They are a pretty good running team despite their OL so who knows. Maybe they think he can do things the other WRs can't, or gives Fields some help. He's got some diva to him I guess but he's an upgrade over ESB or Byron Pringle.

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    • #62
      whats sad is that management "leaked" the news that we also offered a 2nd for claypool

      seems like its just another move by the team to act like they are doing everything they can

      but, i don't think its a good look. so out of all the WRs in the NFL, claypool was the only one that they thought could help us. why wasn't there a plan B? why did we wait until the last day to try and make a move? seemed obvious we needed help over a month ago, maybe if we made an offer a few weeks ago the bears wouldn't have been able to swoop in and swipe him.

      was there any thought about going after anyone else that could help us? we need a TE (needed one for years), so did the vikings, they made a call and got a really good one for next to nothing

      at times i feel like some other GMs and play 4 dimensional chess, out our GM is playing GO FISH just picking up random guys in the draft that we don't even need

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      • #63
        We are 3-5. I read somewhere that we have about a 5% chance of making the playoffs.

        I would have been fine with a 2nd for Claypool, but it probably barely moves the needle on our playoff chances. Realistically, this team isn’t going anywhere, so the draft pick is worth more in keeping. That’s where we are. Talking about what we could or should have done the last 2 years doesn’t change the reality of today.

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        • #64
          "Schefter reports the Packers were willing to give up a second-round pick and a later-round pick for Claypool, but the Steelers eventually went with the Bears’ offer because the team believes Green Bay will get its season turned around and instead wanted Chicago’s second-rounder."

          From an article on Packerswire
          The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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          • #65
            Report earlier today said they tried to acquire Darren Waller from the Raiders at the deadline but the Raiders declined.

            They also inquired on DJ Moore but were told he was considered a part of Carolina's core and won't be moved.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Sparkey View Post
              Report earlier today said they tried to acquire Darren Waller from the Raiders at the deadline but the Raiders declined.

              They also inquired on DJ Moore but were told he was considered a part of Carolina's core and won't be moved.
              They wanted Waller in the Adams trade, and they mentioned they were in talks at trade deadline for a 'significant offensive player' so that fits, but it's just a report they'll likely never go officially on record admitting. Waller would be a nice addition, but I still think Hockenson would've been a better move (if they were even players there; doubt it) because he can block. Their cap situation next year is a mess and maybe they thought they couldn't fit his 5th year option. Hell, if they could've traded Savage for Hockenson and you'd have most of it covered.

              I think they are pretty stuck because of Rodgers and Bahk's contracts. Devondre and Jaire's contracts aren't as bad but you can't keep signing players to top 5 contracts and not end up with a stars-and-scrubs roster, which (as the Rams are also showing) isn't working out this year -- especially if the stars underperform. I'm starting to become more certain they are going to have to do something about Bahktiari's contract, including possibly cutting him. I doubt anyone is going to give up a pick for him given his knee and age.

              I feel like this is a team that is going to try to keep picks and just get younger/cheaper... so I'm not surprised they made some attempts to trade but didn't overreach.

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              • #67
                I guess it was reported by Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1589274724533784576?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">

                went after Claypool, Waller, Moore and Jeudy. Struck out on all 4. Going after Waller (it is theorized) and thinking it was better than 50/50 was likely why they didn't go after Hockenson.

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                • #68
                  who in our front office has the giant man crush on waller?

                  i think this is the third time we tried to get him. we tried to get him in the admas trade, then i think we tried to trade for him straight up after that, now this

                  i don't get the whole "we didn't go after TJ because we thought we had a chance at waller. hockenson is much younger and all around better IMO. and healthy!!!!

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Sparkey View Post
                    Report earlier today said they tried to acquire Darren Waller from the Raiders at the deadline but the Raiders declined.

                    They also inquired on DJ Moore but were told he was considered a part of Carolina's core and won't be moved.
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                    Jay Glazer just said the Packers were willing to give up a first round pick for DJ Moore.
                    Glazer usually has pretty good sources.
                    I can't run no more
                    With that lawless crowd
                    While the killers in high places
                    Say their prayers out loud
                    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                    A thundercloud
                    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                    • #70
                      so, waller was placed on IR

                      maybe we should have offered more to get him?

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by red View Post
                        who in our front office has the giant man crush on waller?

                        i think this is the third time we tried to get him. we tried to get him in the admas trade, then i think we tried to trade for him straight up after that, now this

                        i don't get the whole "we didn't go after TJ because we thought we had a chance at waller. hockenson is much younger and all around better IMO. and healthy!!!!
                        Waller is a monster. If you have access watch a couple of his games before the mess that is the Raiders this year. He is simply bigger and stronger than anyone covering him. He is what the Falcons are praying Pitts becomes.
                        The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by red View Post
                          so, waller was placed on IR

                          maybe we should have offered more to get him?
                          Hell, now is the time to offer a 3rd for him then....cuz a 3rd is worthless in our hands anyway. Give Love someone to target next year.
                          The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                            Hell, now is the time to offer a 3rd for him then....cuz a 3rd is worthless in our hands anyway. Give Love someone to target next year.
                            Love ????

                            EMBRACE THE TANK and give the Ohio State or Alabama somebody to target next year )))
                            TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                              Hell, now is the time to offer a 3rd for him then....cuz a 3rd is worthless in our hands anyway. Give Love someone to target next year.
                              Waller is 30 years old and is hurt for the 2nd year in a row. Not sure what the injuries have been, but I wouldn't give up much. He's good when healthy, but do Packers really need another receiver who has trouble staying healthy?
                              I can't run no more
                              With that lawless crowd
                              While the killers in high places
                              Say their prayers out loud
                              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                              A thundercloud
                              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                                Waller is 30 years old and is hurt for the 2nd year in a row. Not sure what the injuries have been, but I wouldn't give up much. He's good when healthy, but do Packers really need another receiver who has trouble staying healthy?
                                I am glad they didn't make the trade - it would've smacked of desperation, and desperation is not a plan.
                                "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                                KYPack

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