JLove 2025

[run pMc]

Even with Rodgers playing QB the rest of the season, I would be shocked if they win more than 1or 2 games.
Time to let Love start a few games.

It is time to start retooling and rebuilding the roster.
We need to unload a lot of contracts and players.

Problem is, there's not a lot of contracts/players they can unload. Lowry and Amos will be FA but they have void years so those sit on the cap. (Z. Smith, Billy Turner and Kevin King are zombies on the cap this year) Aaron Jones number goes up to $20M and he's basically the engine for the offense this year (when MLF uses him). So you could cut him. You could cut Bahktiari and gain some cap space too, but you better have a LT to replace him and be willing to piss Rodgers off by cutting his best friend. Speaking of which, Cobb is also a FA with void years. UGH

You could cut Devondre but you'd lose cap space doing so. I don't recall what you'd gain cutting Preston, but with Gary hurt you probably need him.
What do they do with Jenkins and Gary? Tag Jenkins and play Gary on his 5th year and then let him hit the market?

They renegotiated a lot of contracts with void years. Go look out on Spotrac -- their cap situation is mess next year.

(and yes, you can "cook your cap", but I'd argue they've already done that to the extent where there's not much left to cook. Add 4 void years to Rodgers contract or something similarly bonkers? There are probably other ways, but not many.)

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

Problem is, there's not a lot of contracts/players they can unload. Lowry and Amos will be FA but they have void years so those sit on the cap. (Z. Smith, Billy Turner and Kevin King are zombies on the cap this year) Aaron Jones number goes up to $20M and he's basically the engine for the offense this year (when MLF uses him). So you could cut him. You could cut Bahktiari and gain some cap space too, but you better have a LT to replace him and be willing to piss Rodgers off by cutting his best friend. Speaking of which, Cobb is also a FA with void years. UGH

You could cut Devondre but you'd lose cap space doing so. I don't recall what you'd gain cutting Preston, but with Gary hurt you probably need him.
What do they do with Jenkins and Gary? Tag Jenkins and play Gary on his 5th year and then let him hit the market?

They renegotiated a lot of contracts with void years. Go look out on Spotrac -- their cap situation is mess next year.

(and yes, you can "cook your cap", but I'd argue they've already done that to the extent where there's not much left to cook. Add 4 void years to Rodgers contract or something similarly bonkers? There are probably other ways, but not many.)

Well, that make me feel a lot better about our situation..

[Sparkey]

Problem is, there's not a lot of contracts/players they can unload. Lowry and Amos will be FA but they have void years so those sit on the cap. (Z. Smith, Billy Turner and Kevin King are zombies on the cap this year) Aaron Jones number goes up to $20M and he's basically the engine for the offense this year (when MLF uses him). So you could cut him. You could cut Bahktiari and gain some cap space too, but you better have a LT to replace him and be willing to piss Rodgers off by cutting his best friend. Speaking of which, Cobb is also a FA with void years. UGH

You could cut Devondre but you'd lose cap space doing so. I don't recall what you'd gain cutting Preston, but with Gary hurt you probably need him.
What do they do with Jenkins and Gary? Tag Jenkins and play Gary on his 5th year and then let him hit the market?

They renegotiated a lot of contracts with void years. Go look out on Spotrac -- their cap situation is mess next year.

(and yes, you can "cook your cap", but I'd argue they've already done that to the extent where there's not much left to cook. Add 4 void years to Rodgers contract or something similarly bonkers? There are probably other ways, but not many.)

It is not as bad as it looks. Spotrac doesn't take into account pre or post 6/1 transactions and how it effects cap hits. OverTheCap, if you go to interactive gives you a better breakdown depending on cuts and when they are processed. The cap in 2024 goes up quite a bit, so if they did post 6/1 cuts or trades in 2023 it is workable.

[Fritz]

I'm feeling the Love.

[MadScientist]

He may be in the league in 2025, and he may even be starting, but Love will have left the Packers before then.

[red]

at this point there is no excuse for not giving him solid playing time to see what we have

by rodgers own words the guys not playing well should be seeing less playing time

sounds like everyone on the radio today was in agreement that he fucking sucked yesterday, despite him yelling and screaming about his receivers not catching balls thrown at their feet

[run pMc]

Rodgers has had some decent games this year, but I'm not sure he's had any "great" games. He was bad vs. Detroit yesterday.
I don't think you can bench Rodgers for Jordan Love until they are mathematically eliminated or Rodgers gets hurt. If you bench him before, I think he would force a trade or retire.

Rodgers is probably still a much better QB than Love. Maybe I'm being optimistic, but I think will improved surrounding talent on the offense he would be playing better, and I would be absolutely shocked if they don't make moves to improve the offense this offseason.

[King Friday]

If you bench him before, I think he would force a trade or retire.

A trade or retirement are the Packers preferred outcome at this point. In reality, neither will happen anytime soon.

[red]

it cracks me up that you guys think a team can force a guy to retire

just looking at his salary and cap numbers. we might have a lot of teams lined up willing to trade for him next off season

if we trade him, his cap number for next year, for his new team will be like 1.2 million

and its only like 18 million in 2024

[Teamcheez1]

I like the Packers position. Rodgers has to accept a trade to whatever team we choose. He will certainly have some input, but ultimately, the Packers management makes the decision. And yes, someone will want to make a deal.

OR, wait for it, he may retire.

I think they will have an open discussion with him at the end of the season. I don’t believe he will want be part of a rebuild if the Packers choose that path.

[Fritz]

He may be in the league in 2025, and he may even be starting, but Love will have left the Packers before then.

Packers trade Rodgers after June 1st, 2023, and Jordan Love gets one shot do not, etc etc, this opportunity comes once in a lifetime.

Fucker’s gonna be great. I am saying it now.

[red]

even if love isn't any good in your situation, there isn't anything wrong with a down year or two

stock up on some nice draft pics

[Teamcheez1]

What if Rodgers did something totally unexpected? Renegotiate his contract to cut his salary/cap hit down to $25-30M with no huge cap hit in future years. I know, he has no incentive to give up money, but I can always dream that AR becomes a benevolent, team player at the end of this season.

[Rastak]

What if Rodgers did something totally unexpected? Renegotiate his contract to cut his salary/cap hit down to $25-30M with no huge cap hit in future years. I know, he has no incentive to give up money, but I can always dream that AR becomes a benevolent, team player at the end of this season.

What if he cuts his salary to the minimum to help sign players? What if I get elected president on write in votes in two years. Gotta be realistic. I guess what you propose is extremely unlikely but I concede it's not completely out of the realm of possibility.

[red]

What if Rodgers did something totally unexpected? Renegotiate his contract to cut his salary/cap hit down to $25-30M with no huge cap hit in future years. I know, he has no incentive to give up money, but I can always dream that AR becomes a benevolent, team player at the end of this season.

how?

theres no salary cap money to give back

other then the pro rated signing bonus hit for next year, which you can't decrease at all, he only counts the minimum salary against the cap, and a very small roster bonus

30.4 million of his 31.6 million dollar cap number for next season is tied up in pro rated signing bonuses

i'll give you guys another shock number. his cap number this year is 28.5 million, not quite the 25% of the cap so many people are bitching about him taking up

his contract right now, is not the reason this team sucks