More Banjo - Packers vs Titans

[call_me_ishmael]

Do yo thang

[Joemailman]

Iitans must have really celebrated on the trip home last night/this morning. Titans OC Todd Downing was arrested for speeding and DUI in Williamson County TN at 4:39 AM.

[call_me_ishmael]

Wow, that's crazy and selfish. How stupid.

[Joemailman]

Just some reactions from people who cover the Packers.

Zach Kruse
@zachkruse2

Christian Watson caught 2 TD passes, Quay Walker had a team-high 5 "stops" and JJ Enagbare had a team-high 3 pressures on TNF.

Zach Tom looks like a future starter along OL.

Need Devonte Wyatt to start coming on and Romeo Doubs to get healthy, but 2022 draft class looking ok

Zach Kruse
@zachkruse2

I think the most deflating/frustrating thing from last night was the fact that the Packers couldn't stop one of the worst passing offenses in football AND the Packers couldn't take advantage of a passing defense down to backups of backups.

Zach Kruse
@zachkruse2

Down 27-17 and with the season hanging in the balance, Packers QB Aaron Rodgers went 8/16 for 60 yards on the final four drives against a Titans secondary missing just about everyone.

Andy Herman
@AndyHermanNFL

I’m not sure why anyone would want to promote Jerry Gray to defensive coordinator when his secondary can’t figure out how to communicate for the 10th week in a row. That’d be like promoting Amari Rodgers to starting quarterback after his 7th fumble.

Matt Schneidman
@mattschneidman

The Packers fooled us with their overtime win over the Cowboys.

Turns out they are who we thought they were for the first nine game of the season.

Inconsistent on offense + inconsistent on defense + inconsistent on special teams = a bad football team:

[call_me_ishmael]

I wasn't watching the game too closely. Did Rodgers have good protection four those final four drives? It seems odd that he'd lose his accuracy overnight.

[bobblehead]

I wasn't watching the game too closely. Did Rodgers have good protection four those final four drives? It seems odd that he'd lose his accuracy overnight.

Rodgers had plenty of time and support. He was bad. End of story.

I know good old cleft crusty used to keyboard scream at people who would say the team looked flat. "YOU CAN'T TELL IF A TEAM IS FLAT ON A TV SCREEN". But I'm sorry. Rodgers looks disinterested. I think he has moved on from football, but can't quite figure out how to leave. He got it up for one game against fat Mike, but that was it.

I'm not saying that he couldn't use more help. Clearly if he had more support around him we would be winning more and he probably would be more into it. I'm simply saying this isn't the best Rodgers on the field right now. On the sack that more or less ended it he could have simply taken the snap and run straight up the middle for close to a first down. Would have set up 3rd and 2 or even a first. He stood in the pocket until it collapsed. There was at least one open receiver that I saw.

At times he still flashes what we are used to from him. At times he just looks like football is down his list of priorities.

[Joemailman]

Rodgers is looking a lot like late-career/late season Favre. The difference is that 15 years ago Packers had a GM who knew when it was time to move on.

[Tony Oday]

Rodgers is looking a lot like late-career/late season Favre. The difference is that 15 years ago Packers had a GM who knew when it was time to move on.

Gute knows to move on, he just missed on the trash can that is Love.

[Joemailman]

Gute knows to move on, he just missed on the trash can that is Love.

If he knew it was time to move on, he wouldn't have signed Rodgers to that contract.

[call_me_ishmael]

If he knew it was time to move on, he wouldn't have signed Rodgers to that contract.

I don't know if he really had a choice. Rodgers had all of the leverage. I do think Gooter thought the window would be open this year again.

What do you all think of this plan?

https://twitter.com/DaireCarragher/status/1593643451601637381

Let Rodgers give the Eagles his best shot next Sunday. If they win, keep him in.

If they lose, put him on IR with a fake thumb injury and see what you’ve got in Love for the last 5 games.

I like it, I just don't know that MVP would go for that. On the other hand, if Rodgers has already committed to being back next year, maybe he would for two reasons: 1) better draft equity, 2) getting clarity and a pick for Love, 3) Setting up his friend JL for his role on a diff team next year

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

If he knew it was time to move on, he wouldn't have signed Rodgers to that contract.

And my best guess so far is Gute was wrong..

[Jaire]

Andy Herman and Mike Wahle have some interesting analysis. In their opinion, Rodgers' problems really stem from season long line issues (not this game) and WRs running really really bad routes. Even if they run good routes, he has a hard time trusting them.

To me, he looks sharp a lot of the time. If the WRs are more consistent, you'll see better play from 12. He hasn't lost it, but he is aging. This is the most inconsistent play from his WRs in his career. IMO that falls on coaching, as well as the sloppy defense. They are no longer coaching fundamentals in GB. THAT seems to be Wahle's over all assessment, and Herman has some interesting insight why that is league wide. We are simply not used to this in GB.

And I remember last year, Rodgers insistance on the veteran's really showing the young guys how to be professionals, last year. They lost many of them this year. And the coaches aren't doing it any more. That seems the bottom line. A few teams still do really coach: Miami and the Titans come to mind. Overall it's poor play: something we're not used to in GB.

[Joemailman]

I don't know if he really had a choice. Rodgers had all of the leverage. I do think Gooter thought the window would be open this year again.

He could have traded Rodgers to Denver for multiple picks. If he had, Love would be playing now and they'd be getting an idea of whether Love can be the guy. If he can't, they'd have the draft capital this year to trade up and draft the QB of the future.

[Jaire]

He could have traded Rodgers to Denver for multiple picks. If he had, Love would be playing now and they'd be getting an idea of whether Love can be the guy. If he can't, they'd have the draft capital this year to trade up and draft the QB of the future.

I agree with Wahle. They are worse with any QB not named Rodgers. Route running is still a hot mess.

I don't trust this FO to produce a championship team without AR. HoF calibre QBs do not come around every year, and we've had long droughts in the draft that produce no franchise QBs. See the QBs drafted between 2006 and 2016: Cam, Stafford, Wilson, Luck, and Cousins are the standouts, and I don't think any of those make HoF. We have a few potential Hall of Famers in the recent drafts. I'd stick with AR, even if he falls off. I am not sure he is there yet. Get him a little more help for a change (and a new DC)

And based on what I've seen, I don't think MLF is good enough to do it without someone like AR.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Not making excuses for Butte’s subpar game, but if the German GM wasn’t so incompetent, Allen Fucking Lazard wouldn’t be Packers #1 WR right now. In 2019, no one outside of uncool Pack fans could name 2 Packers WR. The 2019 drafted was loaded with hotshot WRs. The German Shepherd coulda - and shoulda - drafted the two Ole Miss ‘roid bois in DK Metcalf and AJ Brown. Instead, he took 21 Savage, a better rapper than football player, and the Fucking Center, a bum at tackle.

The offense is rhythmless and impotent. That is a reflection of the German Shepherd’s incompetence.