Again, we need the Love Machine

[King Friday]

Based on how the team held onto Amari Rodgers, Love isn’t going anywhere anytime soon.

[Joemailman]

Trade Love and you're trading someone a young QB with a future. Trade Rodgers and you're in sal cap hell but you're not saddled with an aging, over-the-hill QB who still thinks his shit don't stink, ala Favre and all those other HOF QB's who just can't see the signs, even when everyone else can.

I say dump Rodgers and take the cap hit. Keep Love.

They can't cut him. If they cut him before June 1, he has a cap hit of about of about 100 million. They would have to destroy the team. The best scenario according to OTC would be to trade him after June 1. That would result in a cap hit of 15.8 million in 2023 and 24.5 million in 2024. The best target in a trade would be Las Vegas. There's been talk of Raiders wanting to dump Carr. Rodgers might want to be reunited with Adams. Another possibility would be Seattle. Pete Carroll has that team in contention with Geno Smith at QB. He might want to see what he can do with Aaron Rodgers.

https://overthecap.com/looking-ahead...-aaron-rodgers

Rodgers currently has a salary cap charge of $31.6 million in 2023. $59.465 million of his $59.515 million salary for the year is already guaranteed. The Packers have the option to pay that salary out as a $58.3 million option bonus and a $1.165 million salary in order to drive his cap charge to the $31.6 million figure. The timing of the option works in the Packers favor for both trades and/or potential retirement as the official option decision does not have to happen until the start of the 2023 regular season.

What Happens in Aaron Rodgers Retires?

If Rodgers were to walk away he would forfeit all his rights to the $59.465 million in guaranteed salary for next year. In order to best accommodate the hit on the salary cap my assumption would be that the Packers and Rodgers would sign a new contract where the option bonus was eliminated and just a $1.165 salary remained. That would reduce Rodgers salary cap charge to $16,998,750 and they would carry him on the roster as a procedural move until June 2nd. At that point they would put him on the retired list. The salary cap charge in that case would be $15,833,570 in 2023 and $24,480,000 in 2024.


If they did not do that and processed the retirement right away they would take a salary cap hit of $40,313,570 in 2023 but none in 2024. The Packers have no cap space next year so it would seem more likely that they take the first approach.

What Happens if the Packers Trade Aaron Rodgers?

Rodgers does not have a no trade clause in his contract so he could be traded to a team as well. The timing of the option should give the Packers all the way until the end of training camp to move him. The cap charge here would depend on when he was traded. If Rodgers were to be traded prior to June 1st the Packers would take on a $40,313,750 cap hit in 2023. If he was traded after June 1st it would be a $15,833,570 cap hit in 2023 with $24,480,000 due in 2024. This assumes that the Packers did not exercise the option before the trade. If the option is exercised then the trade number spikes to nearly $100 million. There should be no need to exercise the option until the last possible day.

For the team acquiring Rodgers they would be on the hook for the salary for the year. The cap charge would be $59,515,000 if they do not exercise his option and $15.79 million if they were to exercise the option. Rodgers has an injury guarantee of $49.25 million for 2024 but that does not become fully guaranteed until 5 days after the 2023 Super Bowl. If Rodgers was cut after 2023 it would cost the team $43.725 million on the 2024 cap. If he retired they could split that as $14.575 million in 2024 and $29.15 million in 2025 using a similar June 2nd date as mentioned above in the retirement option.

Can Aaron Rodgers be Cut?

No that is not a feasible option. Because his salary next year is fully guaranteed the Packers would take on over $99 million in dead money. While they could officially pick up the option and split that across 2023 and 2024 it would be about $31 million in dead money in 2023 and then $68.2 million coming in 2024.

[texaspackerbacker]

All during my moratorium on Packer posting, I was boiling mad over the stupidity being posted about trading Aaron Rodgers and idiotic regret over his contract. That contract was obviously designed to keep Rodgers in Green Bay for three years. As has been said, it is damn near impossible to trade him or cut him without horrible dead money. I SAY THAT IS A GOOD THING!!!

As for Love, he played good against the Eagles, and supposedly, that wasn't an aberration. We now have better prospect of getting something decent for him in trade OR as somebody said, we could keep him even beyond his rookie contract and make him the eventual successor to Rodgers. That kinda depends on if he'd stay and be the backup, though. Either of those two options would be fine with me. I just don't want to see Rodgers gone next season or for as far as possible beyond that.

[George Cumby]

After this season, IDK who would want to trade for an aging and entitled Aaron Rodgers, especially with that contract.

Best bet was Denver last off season.

Maybe there's a sucker out there.

[Joemailman]

After this season, IDK who would want to trade for an aging and entitled Aaron Rodgers, especially with that contract.

Best bet was Denver last off season.

Maybe there's a sucker out there.

2 best bets are Raiders and Seahawks. Both close to California. I could see Raiders wanting Rodgers over Carr, or Seattle wanting Rodgers over Geno Smith. Packers play at Vegas in 2023. Could possibly have Seattle at home in 2023.

[George Cumby]

2 best bets are Raiders and Seahawks. Both close to California. I could see Raiders wanting Rodgers over Carr, or Seattle wanting Rodgers over Geno Smith. Packers play at Vegas in 2023. Could possibly have Seattle at home in 2023.

Make it happen, Gute!

[bobblehead]

After this season, IDK who would want to trade for an aging and entitled Aaron Rodgers, especially with that contract.

Best bet was Denver last off season.

Maybe there's a sucker out there.

Its easy actually. The packers trade him in a way where we eat the cash and cap hit mostly. I promise someone gives you minimum of a first in that scenario. Then you clean the cap in a season if possible. Be ready to win again in 2024.

[George Cumby]

I hope you're right, Bobs.

I think the team's got solid foundation of talent.

[bobblehead]

I hope you're right, Bobs.

I think the team's got solid foundation of talent.

I'm right it can be done, whether or not the Packers brass has the brass balls to do it is another issue. There was only one TT and God broke the mold.

[Fritz]

I'm right it can be done, whether or not the Packers brass has the brass balls to do it is another issue. There was only one TT and God broke the mold.

I hope Gute learned that lesson well - that when it's time to make an unpopular decision for the good of the team and franchise, you just suck it up and do it and weather the storm that follows.

Joe, you responded to my earlier post about how much it would cost if the Packers simply cut Rodgers. But I was not clear: when I wrote they should "dump" Rodgers, I did not mean cut him. I meant trade him. I used the word "dump" because I think his value has dropped significantly.

So, to be clear: if it works best to trade him after June 1st, then do that. Get what you can. Unless it's a third. Then just ask for two fourths or something. Cuz this franchise doesn't know what to do with a third round pick. But get what you can, and move on.

[flamacue]

It will require more than a quarterback to right the ship. It will take a really good coach to reset the team. The defense is a dumpster fire. The offense is pretty much inconsistent. I don’t look for much improvement next year under this leadership. I will be pleasantly surprised if there is any significant improvement where they can contend for the nfc north title.

[bobblehead]

It will require more than a quarterback to right the ship. It will take a really good coach to reset the team. The defense is a dumpster fire. The offense is pretty much inconsistent. I don’t look for much improvement next year under this leadership. I will be pleasantly surprised if there is any significant improvement where they can contend for the nfc north title.

I admit to not having seen your previous 7 posts, so I don't know much about your overall thought process so I will dare to ask a couple questions if you will indulge me.

Why do you think a roster that is largely similar to last year and even the year before is hopelessly beyond quick turnaround? We did just win more games in 3 seasons than any other team and for all I can remember, more than any team in like 50 years. How did we pull that off with "leadership" you seem to think is beyond turning it around, and talent that you seem not impressed with? Where on this roster do you think its so deficient that we can't win 12+ games next season if things bounce a little better?

[bobblehead]

Since you are new and probably haven't seen much of my stuff I'll throw in how I see it.

We have a pretty good coach who runs the best offensive system in the game. A system that has stood the test of time going back decades and has spawned a ton of successful coaches.

We have talent across all 3 levels of the defense, and although I do think a new D coordinator is in order, I don't think a major overhaul of the talent is necessary.

On offense we have a good young QB and the 2020 and 2021 MVP. We have an OL that is proving that if they can stay healthy and put the preferred 5 on the field together is really good and young so probably improving even.

We have 2 RBs both in their prime, ages 24 and 27. We have seen enough of the 2 new WR to be encouraged. In Lazard we have a nice safety net. We could use a better TE to stretch the middle of the field, but thats just a luxury.

I just don't see structural lack of talent and leadership. If we didn't have Rodgers hurt his throwing thumb in week 3, and then have OL and WR in and out of the lineup every week on top of it I think this team would probably have its record flipped at a minimum right now.

[texaspackerbacker]

It will require more than a quarterback to right the ship. It will take a really good coach to reset the team. The defense is a dumpster fire. The offense is pretty much inconsistent. I don’t look for much improvement next year under this leadership. I will be pleasantly surprised if there is any significant improvement where they can contend for the nfc north title.

It depends what you mean by righting the ship. Rodgers - assuming he is maybe 70% healthy right now, is probably better at that 70% than 90% of the QBs in the league. Getting him back to near 100% will make him better than near 100% of the QBs in the league. You're right, though, the ship has not been right most of the season, and hardly because of Rodgers. The defense has stunk, and the O Line has continued the mediocre level that has been good enough to win 13 or 14 games the past few years. Also, the WRs have been less than adequate due to injuries and inexperience.

The WRs we have staying healthy and the mediocre O Line not getting any worse should be enough to get the team back to that level of the past few years if we can get rid of Barry - the D personnel being probably above average in the league. That return to last year and the year before level would be righting the ship in my book.

[bobblehead]

It depends what you mean by righting the ship. Rodgers - assuming he is maybe 70% healthy right now, is probably better at that 70% than 90% of the QBs in the league. Getting him back to near 100% will make him better than near 100% of the QBs in the league. You're right, though, the ship has not been right most of the season, and hardly because of Rodgers. The defense has stunk, and the O Line has continued the mediocre level that has been good enough to win 13 or 14 games the past few years. Also, the WRs have been less than adequate due to injuries and inexperience.

The WRs we have staying healthy and the mediocre O Line not getting any worse should be enough to get the team back to that level of the past few years if we can get rid of Barry - the D personnel being probably above average in the league. That return to last year and the year before level would be righting the ship in my book.

Tex, you really do ignore reality. The defense has not stunk all season. They are the only reason we have most of the wins we do. Rodgers has stunk on ice. No 2 ways about it.