Again, we need the Love Machine

[Teamcheez1]

Read in the Wilde interview that Jordan Love would likely request a trade rather than sit behind AR any longer. I tend to side with Love on this even if it’s to the detriment of the Packers.

[Rastak]

Read in the Wilde interview that Jordan Love would likely request a trade rather than sit behind AR any longer. I tend to side with Love on this even if it’s to the detriment of the Packers.

I guess it really depends on the overall plan by the Packers brain trust. Plus they do not have to grant a trade. Be interesting to see what happens with Rodgers. They might get something for Love.

[Joemailman]

If the Packers keep Rodgers and trade Love, they could be one year away from not knowing who the hell their starting quarterback is. If that happens, it will be torches and pitchforks.

[call_me_ishmael]

Joe, it doesn't matter though if the Packers don't think Love is the guy. If they don't think he is a top tier guy, then I'd prefer to move on then settle for Jared Goff or something.

[run pMc]

If Rodgers comes back (which I think he will, he has 59.3 million reasons) for another year I'm ok with trading Love assuming they can get a decent pick for him. I don't think that will happen. Love is going to need some assurances to want to stay though -- he's been on the bench 3 years and has to be itching to play, especially with all the rumblings in social media to play him with the Packers a very very longshot to make the playoffs anyway. Thing that worries me is if they exercise the 5th year AND have Rodgers; that's a lot of cap set aside for two players, only one of whom will play.

I think Love can be an average level starter, but he's got to show a lot of improvement to make me think he's an elite QB. He hasn't had a lot of chances and I'd bet Gute/MLF want to find out if he's good as a starter in a few regular season games or not.

[texaspackerbacker]

I'm about 50/50 with trading or keeping Love. As somebody said, just because he requests a trade, that doesn't mean they have to trade him.

Joe, or whoever, how much does it cost to exercise that 5th year option? And is it correct to assume doing that makes his trade value higher?

I don't want to see Love on the field unless or until the Packers are mathematically out of it. Then, grudgingly, I'd say play him - mainly to showcase him for a trade. On the other hand, if he did stay around until Rodgers is gone - a LONG time, I very much hope, he has shown enough to maybe be the successor.

[Joemailman]

I'm about 50/50 with trading or keeping Love. As somebody said, just because he requests a trade, that doesn't mean they have to trade him.

Joe, or whoever, how much does it cost to exercise that 5th year option? And is it correct to assume doing that makes his trade value higher?

I don't want to see Love on the field unless or until the Packers are mathematically out of it. Then, grudgingly, I'd say play him - mainly to showcase him for a trade. On the other hand, if he did stay around until Rodgers is gone - a LONG time, I very much hope, he has shown enough to maybe be the successor.

5th year option for Love would be about 20 million, all guaranteed. Don't know if a team has ever used 5th year option on a player and then traded him.

[sharpe1027]

Billy TURNER was so unimportant that you forgot his name hahahahaha.

And arguably, the cap had nothing to do with any of that.

Arguably? I suppose that's technically true. Not a very good argument, but here we are.

[Fritz]

If Rodgers comes back (which I think he will, he has 59.3 million reasons) for another year I'm ok with trading Love assuming they can get a decent pick for him. I don't think that will happen. Love is going to need some assurances to want to stay though -- he's been on the bench 3 years and has to be itching to play, especially with all the rumblings in social media to play him with the Packers a very very longshot to make the playoffs anyway. Thing that worries me is if they exercise the 5th year AND have Rodgers; that's a lot of cap set aside for two players, only one of whom will play.

I think Love can be an average level starter, but he's got to show a lot of improvement to make me think he's an elite QB. He hasn't had a lot of chances and I'd bet Gute/MLF want to find out if he's good as a starter in a few regular season games or not.

This is the problem - they really need to see what they've got over the last few games, but Rodgers clearly wants to play. They've put themselves in a tough spot. I wonder if they can pay Aaron Donald a little extra to break Rodgers's thumb again.

[bobblehead]

This is the problem - they really need to see what they've got over the last few games, but Rodgers clearly wants to play. They've put themselves in a tough spot. I wonder if they can pay Aaron Donald a little extra to break Rodgers's thumb again.

Again I will say, remember Ryan Grant. Guys that pull attention grabbing selfish moves usually get their way in the short run, but if management believes they can win an Owl with Love they will trade Rodgers. The window to get max value may have passed, but he is still under contract and they can force the issue. A tough spot doesn't mean they have no options.

[run pMc]

I think Wilde's story is true. You don't train like crazy your whole life to sit on the bench.

How many QB in the 2023 draft are better than Love? Would he be the #2 or #3 ranked QB in this class? He's about the same age as Kenny Pickett, so he's still young and has benefitted from being the backup. He's probably getting past the point of riding the pine -- he either has to play and prove if he's a starter or a backup, probably for another team. Would be nice to see him play and know what they have... I suspect they know from practices, but practices vs. games is a different story. I want to see him play under live fire. Hopefully he gets to play at least the last two games, but honestly the "mathematically eliminated" quote from Rodgers could mean Love never sees the field... a 0.1% chance of making the playoffs is still a chance.

Being able to exercise the 5th year option is a nice selling point for a team -- gives the team more time to evaluate and negotiate a long-term extension. If they want to keep Love AND Rodgers, it's going to be very difficult.

Would you take Indy's R2 pick for Love if they offered it?

[texaspackerbacker]

I doubt it would be that difficult to keep both. Talk of trading Rodgers is all out bonehead STUPID. Yes, I would take Indy's second for Love - in a heartbeat.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Again I will say, remember Ryan Grant. Guys that pull attention grabbing selfish moves usually get their way in the short run, but if management believes they can win an Owl with Love they will trade Rodgers. The window to get max value may have passed, but he is still under contract and they can force the issue. A tough spot doesn't mean they have no options.

What about Ryan Grant? I don’t recall Handsome Grant being a “attention grabbing selfish” diva.

Grant was already 25 when he was acquired by the Polar Bear prior to the 2007 season. With the great Deshawn Wynn, Packers couldn’t run the rock til Grant’s beakout game on Monday Night Football against the Broncos. Eventually earned a 4 years $30M contract. Injury ruined his Super Bowl season, but the dude rushed for 1,200+ yards twice. Played out his contract; was not re-signed b/c the Packers felt he was too old. Eventually made his way back to Green Bay for another season.

Grant was nothing but a class act. Fast; was a home run threat each time he touched the rock. Did I mention that the dude was handsome?

[Anti-Polar Bear]

5th year option for Love would be about 20 million, all guaranteed. Don't know if a team has ever used 5th year option on a player and then traded him.

Love’s still under contract for at least one more season. No need to execute the 5th year option. If Butte doesn’t return in 24, tag Love. If Butte wins MVP again in 23 and returns, let love walk. If Love proves to be legit as a free agent, Pack will get a nice compensation pick for him (2-3 rounder).

[run pMc]

They have to make a decision by May 2023 on the fifth year option for Love. A little over 5 months from now -- that's the deadline.