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  • #16
    Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
    So to be clear. Packers win....all Rodgers greatness. Packers lose.....Rodgers gets no help at all.
    This is Texas Logic, similar to Texas Math.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
      I was asked tonight how the Packers coulda beat the Cowboys with that fierce pass rush the they have. The answer, obviously, was Rodgers' mobility. Today too, even though the Packers O Line was better than usual (or else the Bears' pass rush really was anemic), there still was a significant rush a lot of times - but Rodgers just calmly handled it, didn't throw picks like Fields, and completed passes, often against good pass coverage. The other thing about those "average" numbers - you ungrateful dumbass, is that when your running game is working, you aren't gonna get as many yards or TDs.
      Or...when your running game is working, and you're facing a depleted defense and the OL is giving you great protection you should be better than 18-31.
      I can't run no more
      With that lawless crowd
      While the killers in high places
      Say their prayers out loud
      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
      A thundercloud
      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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      • #18
        hahahaha I said it might have something to do with the Bears still sucking. That inexperienced secondary they had, though, did a pretty good job - better at times than our star-laden secondary - coaching might have something to do with that difference.

        Rodgers not throwing better than 18-31 had a lot to do with not throwing it into traffic - as is normal for him, not throwing picks. Did he look inaccurate or weak-armed? Not that I saw. It looks like dumbass haters are still gonna hate, but that's what wins games, and that's a major factor in his greatness having the good sense not to give it away. Contrast that with Fields or a helluva lot of other QBs. I'm tempted to say Fields looked damn good - much like Hurts or Lamar Jackson, but then he threw a couple of picks and his team lost the game despite having as good or better O Line blocking and run game as the Packers. Our O Line, as I said, was way better than usual tonight, but Rodgers still got rushed a lot, and in the early part of the game, they weren't opening holes on runs either. Some of the line's goodness had to do with Rodgers' mobility, and a lot of the line's goodness was just in comparison to the way they usually play.

        Not blaming Rodgers when the team lost? He stunk it up a couple of times this season, but yeah, most of the time it wasn't Rodgers that was the main reason in the losses. The D, the O Line, the Receivers, Special Teams, arguably ALL of those were worse factors in all but a couple of the 8 losses.
        What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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        • #19
          Studs
          Dillon - averaged 5+ ypc
          Watson
          OL - gave up 0 sacks or QB hits.

          Duds
          Defense. Allowed CHI to convert 6/11 3rd downs and Fields went 20/25 at over 10 ypa. For the math challenged, that's an 80% completion rate. Jaire looked bad, but with Gary out and Clark doubled there's no pass rush either.

          As for Rodgers, he played ok -- some good throws, some bad. 18/31 for under 200 is not great, and Fields was outplaying him until he threw those picks. 182 yards on 31 attempts is pedestrian -- 58% and under 6 ypa -- and against most teams would result in a loss. He did some nice things in the pocket and there were flashes, which is nice to see given the injuries. Not sure I'd call it a great game or consider him a stud for it. He's making some throws like he's expecting good ol friend DPI to get called, and that's not a strategy you can consistently rely on. He's gambling too often, more than he needs to.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
            hahahaha I said it might have something to do with the Bears still sucking. That inexperienced secondary they had, though, did a pretty good job - better at times than our star-laden secondary - coaching might have something to do with that difference.

            Rodgers not throwing better than 18-31 had a lot to do with not throwing it into traffic - as is normal for him, not throwing picks. Did he look inaccurate or weak-armed? Not that I saw. It looks like dumbass haters are still gonna hate, but that's what wins games, and that's a major factor in his greatness having the good sense not to give it away. Contrast that with Fields or a helluva lot of other QBs. I'm tempted to say Fields looked damn good - much like Hurts or Lamar Jackson, but then he threw a couple of picks and his team lost the game despite having as good or better O Line blocking and run game as the Packers. Our O Line, as I said, was way better than usual tonight, but Rodgers still got rushed a lot, and in the early part of the game, they weren't opening holes on runs either. Some of the line's goodness had to do with Rodgers' mobility, and a lot of the line's goodness was just in comparison to the way they usually play.

            Not blaming Rodgers when the team lost? He stunk it up a couple of times this season, but yeah, most of the time it wasn't Rodgers that was the main reason in the losses. The D, the O Line, the Receivers, Special Teams, arguably ALL of those were worse factors in all but a couple of the 8 losses.
            Rodgers is in full fledged tin cup Roy MaCavoy territory right now. 3rd and 2, he has a guy open for 5, but takes that shot 28 yards down field. I see it twice a game, and if I notice it twice, its happening 5x.

            He simply is not playing good QB right now. Evidence was the Love to Watson TD pass in Philly. Explain why Rodgers hasn't hit Watson for a crossing route 4 yards shy of the sticks all year? Because he would rather throw to cobb or Lazard 18 yards past the sticks.

            Take the drop Roy....for fucks sake, take the drop.
            The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Teamcheez1 View Post
              Rodgers was 18-31 with 182 yards and a QB rating of 85.7.

              This was against a team with 3 of 4 starters out in the secondary and a pass rush so anemic they couldn’t produce even one sack. That is the definition of average in the NFL.
              Thats below average imo.
              Need a better oline against any decent d. If he has time he's okay
              All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

              George Orwell

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
                Thats below average imo.
                Need a better oline against any decent d. If he has time he's okay
                I was trying to be kind to Tex. I didn’t want his head to explode from criticism of AR.

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                • #23
                  Shitheads and ingrates are gonna be shitheads and ingrates.

                  Upnorth, yeah, below average stats (I can remember when some dumbasses callrf Rodgers a stat whore). What's the difference now? Less good receivers partly, at least until recently with Watson. The main reason, though, as I said and some imbeciles like this Teamcheez1 can't seem to comprehend, when you're running with success, you're not gonna have as many passing yards.
                  What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                    Shitheads and ingrates are gonna be shitheads and ingrates.

                    Upnorth, yeah, below average stats (I can remember when some dumbasses callrf Rodgers a stat whore). What's the difference now? Less good receivers partly, at least until recently with Watson. The main reason, though, as I said and some imbeciles like this Teamcheez1 can't seem to comprehend, when you're running with success, you're not gonna have as many passing yards.
                    He's not playing well. Certainly not up to his standards or those of his contract.

                    You're not being objective in your assessment, but nothing anyone says will ever convince you otherwise. Screw it. Just keep telling yourself you know more than everyone else. If it's working for you, why stop now?

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by sharpe1027 View Post
                      He's not playing well. Certainly not up to his standards or those of his contract.

                      You're not being objective in your assessment, but nothing anyone says will ever convince you otherwise. Screw it. Just keep telling yourself you know more than everyone else. If it's working for you, why stop now?
                      My grandmother once said its best to be really smart or really dumb. Either way you are generally pretty happy.
                      The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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