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Looks like Jerry Gray is leaving. There have been reports of some friction between Gray and Barry regarding how defensive backfield should be utilized. Maybe that contributed to a lot of the dysfunction in the pass defense. Not a good thing if the defensive coordinator and defensive backs coach/passing game coordinator aren't on the same page.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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Originally posted by Joemailman View PostLooks like Jerry Gray is leaving. There have been reports of some friction between Gray and Barry regarding how defensive backfield should be utilized. Maybe that contributed to a lot of the dysfunction in the pass defense. Not a good thing if the defensive coordinator and defensive backs coach/passing game coordinator aren't on the same page.
There was some mutiny going on between our defensive backs and JoeBlow Barry
Jerry Gray never really supported JoeBlow through the press. Three times during the season he noted it wasn't his defensive system and they'd need to ask Joe that question as he's just doing his best with the defensive backs.
It's a rarity for offensive and defensive coaches to not sign their rolling contract going forward. Apparently they are 2 year rolling deals. Barry didn't sign his last year, essentially leaving him a free agent this year.
Most Packer Beat guys didn't expect him to return. The secondary players really like Jerry Gray.
If JoeBlow sucks again next year this is just another strike against the FLOWERTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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First it was rumblings that the defensive players, especially the defensive backs, did not like the way Joe Barely was using them.
Now it is clear that Jerry Gray, a venerated defensive backs coach, did not like Joe Barely's system and did not think he was using the defensive backs properly.
The red flags are popping up faster than a twelve-year-old boy watching porn.
Earth to Matty Flower, Earth to Matty Flower. Calling Matty Flower. Helloooo?"The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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JERRY GRAY IS GONE
OUR SPECIAL TEAMS COACH has INTERVIEW #2 with THE COLTS MONDAYTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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Originally posted by Sparkey View PostI hope Bisaccia gets the gig. Should have gotten the Raiders job.
Ya, I kinda agree . But I do love him as our ST coach.
I wonder if Jimmy is on the short list with Gray jumping off the Barry Bus.
Then again, to be honest, Jimmy runs a very different defense than JoeBlow as wellTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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Jerry Gray gone.
One of the important parts of being a good head coach is making good assistant coach hires. MLF has had a couple of good ones, but he also seemed to poop the bed on a couple. He needs to get the next ones right: if Bisaccia goes, the ST hire is crucial. WIth Gray gone, whom MLF hires to execute Joe Barely's vision in the defensive backfield.
Man, I hate that vision. No blitzing, everything predictable. Ugh."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
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It's a very important hire. Al Harris has been mentioned as a possible replacement for Gray.Originally posted by Fritz View PostJerry Gray gone.
One of the important parts of being a good head coach is making good assistant coach hires. MLF has had a couple of good ones, but he also seemed to poop the bed on a couple. He needs to get the next ones right: if Bisaccia goes, the ST hire is crucial. WIth Gray gone, whom MLF hires to execute Joe Barely's vision in the defensive backfield.
Man, I hate that vision. No blitzing, everything predictable. Ugh.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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I hope Barry adapts the scheme he's trying to run (i.e., copy form Fangio) to play more man -- it's the strength of both Savage and his trio of outside corners. Man under a 2 high shell is fine and could be enough to disrupt timing and help the pass rush get there. I'm not optimistic it will happen, but after two years of having MLF and players talk to him, you'd think he'd learn.
Yes yes you run a lot of zone because it's safe and there are so many good WRs etc. but they need to mix it up more.
(They also need to stop calling Cover 3 if they are backed up inside the 10 yard line. LeRoy Butler did a nice breakdown on why in one of the JSO videos.)
Gray was a decent DB coach and his players liked him. He subbed in as DC the previous season for the ARI game as DC and they held up ok, but I don't know if he would be a good DC. I think it's dependent upon the talent, so he'd have done ok here as a Barry replacement. As the assistant HC and pass defense helper or whatever for ATL he'll be fine. Wish him well.
Don't know if Al Harris would be the right fit, would have to be someone who buys into the scheme they want to run. Gray really didn't.
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