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Originally posted by texaspackerbacker
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I repeat, the Packer future can go one of two ways: at least a couple more years of the greatness we've seen over the past 3 decades or so with Favre and Rodgers OR a fairly long period of mediocrity that a few ignorant pieces of shit in here seem to crave, Bears or Lions level football, without Rodgers. Are we doomed to that in a few years anyway, knowing Rodgers isn't gonna go on forever? Maybe, but I for one prefer to put it off as long as possible and maybe get lucky with a third QB that will dominate the league (one of the few things I and most of the negativists agree on is that Love probably isn't that).
I've said forever in here, it is horrendously stupid - in the NFL or in any sport - to tear down to rebuild, as thankfully, the Packers have never done (or the Bucks or Brewers either for that matter). Rebuilding on the fly is ALWAYS the way to go, unklike a few boom or bust teams in various sports - which is about the best you can ever hope for - or the numerous crap teams that tear down periodically and never get back above mediocrity. Yet some idiots in here advocate exactly that.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?Comment
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I am not a salary cap expert. I do know when you commit 150 million to one player for 3 years and over 100 million is guaranteed it is really hard to add anything to the stew that could make the team immediately better for the 2023 season, probably just the opposite where you have to get guys to restructure or you have to cut quality players to get under the cap. You can't reload or rebuild doing it that way. The Packers had Rodgers under contract until 2023 and they tore up the deal and then resigned him to even more money to keep him happy. Well at this point it's clear he is on the downside of his career and is weighing retirement which would financially cripple the Packers for the next two years.
Why did Tom Brady win so many Super Bowls? Was it because he was the best most talented player/QB in the league? No. Brady is super talented but not nearly as such as Rodgers, he won Super Bowls because he is loyal to the franchise that he plays for and the people around him. His willingness to sacrifice was the reason he won, Rodgers doesn't have that personality trait. Did he offer to restructure his mega deal to get Cobb or any other receivers to GB? No sir. He signed the most player friendly deal you could possible get.Comment
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That might be true. It might be true that Rodgers wanted to get out of Green Bay, although I find that hard to believe. For whatever reason, the Packers decision makers decided that it was a good idea to keep him with the team. If you assume Rodgers gave up a desire to leave for a ton of money, then they did what was necessary to keep him. I'm all for that. Rodgers at the time of the contract made that seem like a good idea. Rodgers' play this past season - probably injury plagued, definitely with lower quality receivers for most of the season is what makes the contract seem bad. I thoroughly expect Rodgers to get back to his old self and make this contract look like a good thing even to the negativist fools who currently seem justified in their idiocy.
As for the idea of it being difficult to improve the team with Rodgers' contract, the $150 million with $100 million guaranteed is not the relevant thing. His cap hit is relevant. As with most years for the Packers, the team really doesn't need much to get back to 13-4 or 14-3 - assuming Rodgers plays up to his past history prior to this season. And whatever we do need isn't gonna be blocked by Rodgers' cap hit.
It's hard to shoot down the anti-Rodgers shitheads right now, as miserable as this season was (far from all of that misery being Rodgers' fault). All I can do is hope and expect things to get back to normal next season and beyond. And I say fuck any assholes who see it otherwise.Last edited by texaspackerbacker; 01-12-2023, 12:58 AM.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?Comment
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double postWhat could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?Comment
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Hoping for a near 40 year old player to suddenly start playing like an MVP again is a foolish bet. People who are against Rodgers do not want him to fail, they simply do not put on blinders and assume his career trajectory will match that of Tom Brady. It is far more likely his trajectory will follow the other 99% of QBs, and the Packers should be assuming the same. That is why his contract was such an epic failure. Even Adams made the correct assumption on Rodgers, even if he made a horribly inaccurate assumption on Carr. How Gute got played will be analyzed for decades in Packers lore.It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!Comment
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Yeah, the mantra of the dumbasses and haters is that Rodgers can't do what Brady has done. I say why the hell not? The real question is, does Rodgers care enough to try to continue excellence as long or longer than Brady? As I said, I'm not gonna be like the shitheads and presume to know what's in Rodgers heart and mind, but I'm thinking and hoping he's prideful enough to want to outdo Brady. If I'm wrong, the Packers and all of us who are their fans will suffer, as the great times we've seen for thirty years give or take will succumb to the mediocrity that most fans around the league have to put up with.
Gutekunst will be remembered as the GM who was intelligent enough to keep Rodgers in Green Bay and extend the greatness whatever number of years.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?Comment
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Because he hasn't done it and he's about to turn 40?Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post"The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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Yep, unfortunately this is spot on. Although, I'm NOT on the side of running AR out of town before he wants to hang it up. I really think most of his problems this year were related to his injured thumb.Originally posted by Fritz View PostComment
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Because he has stated he doesn't WANT TO.Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View PostThe only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince LombardiComment
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Hasn't done what? He had a bad year - for him. Still way better than most QBs now or ever. You think he won't snap back? Why? "about to turn 40"? Brady is still goiing strong at 45 or so, and arguably Rodgers is a better player than Brady or literally anybody else, so why not?Originally posted by Fritz View PostWhat could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?Comment
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Stated he doesn't want to what? Play at a high level as long as Brady has? I don't suppose he ever came out and arrogantly claimed that, but you're saying he claimed the opposite ....... I don't think so.Originally posted by bobblehead View PostWhat could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?Comment
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He didn't have a good year period. No caveats like "for him" needed.Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View PostComment
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Aside from Brady, what other quarterback ever has had great success over 40?Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View PostComment
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Outside of Brady, who has 60 wins or something after 40, the next 2 closest to him on the list are Brees and Favre, each with 17 wins past age 40. Both of them played well soon after 40 (i.e. comparable to Rodgers next season) but both were showing significant decline within a year after hitting 40. There are quite a few other QBs who played after 40, but nearly all of the rest were horrible at that point.
So, Brady is still very good at age 45…Favre and Brees were good for about one season after 40…and that’s it.
But sure Tex…your assumption that Rodgers will easily duplicate what Brady is doing is perfectly logical….sigh.It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!Comment
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