Fuck MLF

[Joemailman]

every good team except for 1 ends the season with a loss

I read that in a fortune cookie

edit: I see 7 people piled on to that point

Packer fans are spoiled by 20 years of relative success.

The Packer brass went for a Superbowl this year and misjudged the talent around Rodgers, well, Rodgers too, but pieces were not in place. I don't think firing coaches is the way forward. The GM shit the bed.

Pretty sure I said he'll get a chance to turn it round, which you edited out. But that's okay. But I maintain the trajectory is not good. Not irreversible, but not good. Do a lot of people feel the Packers are as close to winning a Super Bowl now as they were 2 years ago?

[texaspackerbacker]

That depends entirely on how long Rodgers stays - and NOT in the negative way that some shitheads probably would see that.

[bobblehead]

Here's an honest question:

Which team was more physical last night?

Like almost 100% of the time...the team that won. Duh.

[ThunderDan]

2022 Green Bay Packers 17 542 350 64.6 3695 26 12 91.1
2021 Green Bay Packers 16 531 366 68.9 4115 37 4 111.9
2020 Green Bay Packers 16 526 372 70.7 4299 48 5 121.5
2019 Green Bay Packers 16 569 353 62.0 4002 26 4 95.4
2018 Green Bay Packers 16 597 372 62.3 4442 25 2 97.6

ARod's stats for the last 5 years. The 2022 numbers don't stack up anywhere near the past 4 years. 2022 was middle of the pack at best, for $50+ Million.

[RashanGary]

Like almost 100% of the time...the team that won. Duh.

Detroit won the trenches but Amos, Quay and Lazard were the most physical athletic guys on the field.

[run pMc]

Re: Aaron's stats.

Closest recent year was his injury shortened 2017 season. Even so, he averaged just under 220 yards passing per game this year. That's pretty low. Most of his advanced stats this year were about average compared to other starters. So the team is paying top dollar for average production at QB.

In fairness, he was coming off two consecutive MVP seasons, but this was his age 39 season -- like it or not, the decline has started. He gutted thru some injuries, but he's only going to get more fragile. Don't recall any MVP moments this year. He occasionally made a great throw, but so has Taylor Heinicke. Was not consistently great and sometimes flat out bad this year in games.
(Also interesting: drops and throwaways were up, rate pressured was down. Almost never ran/scrambled this year.)

I don't think Rodgers can carry a team like he did in the McCarthy era, but he can win if he can adapt to go thru his reads, and deliver the ball accurately and on-time -- the younger talent should help shoulder the burden. Watson and Doubs are good building blocks.

I think before we judge MLF, we have to see him separate from Rodgers. A good/great QB can win in spite of bad coaching. Also, I'm not 100% we've seen the MLF offense; they still run a MLF/M3 hybrid at times.
I do think a losing season next year warms his seat up though.

[Fritz]

Last 3 seasons have ended with home loss in NFC title game, home loss in divisional round, and home loss causing them to miss the playoffs. The trajectory is not good. He'll get a chance to turn it around, but now the pressure is really on.

That will mean that the Packers will win next season's meangingless season-ending finale, causing them to go from getting the 5th overall pick to the 8th overall pick.

[Joemailman]

That will mean that the Packers will win next season's meangingless season-ending finale, causing them to go from getting the 5th overall pick to the 8th overall pick.

I guess I can't blame a Michigander for taking the Packers getting swept by the Lions pretty hard. Hang in there.

[sharpe1027]

I've got bad news for you. I think it's gonna get worse before it gets better. Rodgers's contract nearly guarantees.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Little Frog has been canned as Jets OC. Lafeur is French for flower, right? Flower and Flower in Green Bay?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7KNmW9a75Y