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  • MORENCY CARRIES BAGGAGE

    Morency carries baggage
    New Packers back has past run-ins with law
    By BOB McGINN
    bmcginn@journalsentinel.com
    Posted: Sept. 15, 2006

    Green Bay - Running back Vernand Morency can't compare to wide receiver Koren Robinson when it comes to character risk but the newest member of the Green Bay Packers does have red flags on his résumé.

    New running back Verand Morency has had a few run-ins with the law.

    Morency, obtained by the Packers on Wednesday from Houston in a trade for running back Samkon Gado, was implicated by a female student at Oklahoma State University for rape in February 2003. Nine weeks later a university police investigator filed an affidavit, the only documentation of the case.

    In April of that year, then-coach Les Miles placed Morency on indefinite suspension.

    Morency was reinstated by Miles in early August when the player filed a civil lawsuit against the university on July 31, 2003, and a judge quickly issued a temporary restraining order allowing him to remain in school.

    Two weeks later, the district attorney's office elected not to file charges because of insufficient evidence, and records were permanently sealed. The sexual-assault charge wasn't brought to light until a story appeared Oct. 4, 2004, in the Oklahoma State student newspaper.

    "I was never charged with anything," Morency said Friday. "It was accusations. I never had an arrest on my record."

    Morency also was involved in another off-field incident during his first year at Oklahoma State that was brought to the attention of all 32 teams by the National Football League security department.

    According to one NFL official, Morency was one of about 20 students who jumped on bicycles outside a campus building, rode away and left them at another campus location. Morency and 10 others were caught and felony charges were considered, according to an NFL official.

    In the end, Morency reportedly was arrested for possession of a stolen bicycle, a charge that was stricken from his record at the end of a deferred sentence.

    "It was nothing," Morency said. "I was never charged with anything. Everything went away."

    After signing Robinson on Monday despite the receiver's alcohol-related criminal issues, Packers general manager Ted Thompson traded for Morency about 48 hours later. He said the club examined these and other issues regarding Morency before making the deal for Gado, who was considered a model citizen.

    "We studied that back when he came out of college," Thompson said, referring to the accusation of rape. "We determined that he was accused of something but based on our information there was no substance to it."

    Regarding the stolen bike, Thompson said, "It sounded like to me it was some sort of college stunt."

    Thompson added: "I pulled out our reports and read them again. One said he came from a 'solid two-parent family.' All the people in Houston vouched for him very strongly, as did the people at Oklahoma State."

    Morency, 26, was born and raised in Miami and his parents both worked. Drafted in the 14th round in 1998 by the Colorado Rockies, Morency played minor-league baseball as a centerfielder for four years before making a return to football by enrolling at Oklahoma State in 2002.

    "I've been raised in a great family, a loving family," Morency said. "I'm a hard worker, dedicated to what I do. I do not drink or smoke."

    Earlier in the week, two top executives in personnel for other NFL teams said they regarded Morency as a character risk both before the 2005 draft as well as today.

    "He is a very bad person off the field," an executive for an NFC team said. "He'll never survive in Green Bay. He's got a lot of problems."

    The personnel man for an AFC team said he remembered interviewing Morency in February 2005 at the NFL combine.

    "I don't recall anything being major but it was just a thousand little things," the executive said. "He started going and going and going and going. The story just kept getting longer and longer. We asked why he didn't succeed in baseball. It was, 'Well, the manager didn't like me there, they wouldn't let me bat in the right position.' It was always somebody else's fault why things didn't work out or went wrong."

    An executive for another NFC team reached a different conclusion on Morency.

    "Got a little Miami to him but overall a pretty good home life," the executive said. "He's not a kid that ran the streets. We thought the kid knows right from wrong. Did he do some stupid stuff that we all do in college? Yes. But once he got caught there were no other incidents."

    After declaring for the draft in January 2005 as a third-year junior, Morency scored 11 on the 50-question Wonderlic intelligence test.

    According to Morency's initial lawsuit, he and the woman watched movies in his dorm room on the night in question. Morency stated that all sexual conduct was consensual. The woman didn't contact police until April 1, or 37 days after the incident. A week later, she turned over a pair of underwear she was wearing on the night and had not washed.

    Lab findings revealed that the underwear did contain semen, according to the lawsuit.

    After appearing at a disciplinary hearing, Morency received a letter on May 6 from Peg Vitek, then the university's student conduct officer. In the letter, Vitek wrote: "Based on the written statement and the testimony of all parties, I find it to be more likely than not that you did sexually assault (redacted) on Feb. 23, 2003."

    Court documents showed that Morency also was found in violation of two university alcohol policies.

    In his lawsuit, Morency said Oklahoma State officials "were bent from the outset upon intimidating and, eventually, suspending" him in disciplinary procedures that he said amounted to "sexual McCarthyism."

    Morency remained on campus to work out during the summer of 2003. Backing up Tatum Bell that season, he rushed for 918 yards. He exploded for 1,474 yards in '04.

    By vote of the three executives, the Packers were judged to have gotten the better end of the trade by a 2-1 margin.

    "There is no question about this kid's talent," one of the NFC personnel men said. "He could be a starter. But you've got to keep him on track."

    Added the AFC scout, who much preferred Gado: "Evidently, (Gado) didn't fit them at all so they're just taking a flier, I guess. The one thing, if a guy can't play for you, you might as well try something else. Morency has ability but, with the age and all the other stuff, it would scare me."
    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

  • #2
    Sounds like more "Packer People."

    Anyone know what Barrett Robbins is up to nowadays?

    Lawrence Phillips?

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    • #3
      Oh, I thought this thread was about his former job as a porter. A 'feel good' story, kinda like the Beer delivery/kick returner from the Saints. Oh well...
      "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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      • #4
        Gosh, maybe next McGinn will write column about Donald Driver's troubled childhood. Never miss a chance to be negative.
        I can't run no more
        With that lawless crowd
        While the killers in high places
        Say their prayers out loud
        But they've summoned, they've summoned up
        A thundercloud
        They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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        • #5
          This is just a cheap shot! Let's break it down. Some girl accused him of rape a MONTH AFTER IT OCCURED!? Rape is a disgusting, terrible crime, maybe worse then homicide, but this case stinks!

          Then, he rode someones bike accross campus and dumped it. Sounds like a stupid college kid thing to me. I did MUCH worse!

          And that quote by that NFC scout or exec saying that he is a bad kid. Oh really? Why? Prove it. What a pussy, he won't even let McGinn print his name!

          How did the JS manage to hire the only two perfect people on the Planet. How blessed we all are to be able to read Chrisl and McGinn's work!!!!

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          • #6
            that's a deceptive headline by Bob McGinn. The article itself says he doesn't carry "baggage".

            I for one have never been bothered by "bad" characters unless they drag the rest of the team down with them, become a "cancer" on the roster.

            My opinion is the guy on this team to watch out for is not Koren Robinson or Morency. It's Charles Woodson.

            What really makes me sick in sports journalism is "moralizing". Jim Rome does it 24/7 and is unlistenable. Bunch of fatheads who want to beat up Pete Rose, Bob Knight, or Woody Hayes. Three guys I love. Dan Patrick likes to do it to, in holier than thou tones. Cliff Christl's become another Jimmy Swaggart.
            more freedom, less government. Go Sarah!

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            • #7
              According to one NFL official, Morency was one of about 20 students who jumped on bicycles outside a campus building, rode away and left them at another campus location. Morency and 10 others were caught and felony charges were considered, according to an NFL official.
              Felony Charges for stealing bikes!

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              • #8
                When I saw the title of the thread, I thought since Morency was new, he had to carry all the players equipment and luggage.
                "I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Joemailman
                  Gosh, maybe next McGinn will write column about Donald Driver's troubled childhood. Never miss a chance to be negative.
                  Nice re-direct there Joe. Drag Donald Driver's name through the muck and shit.

                  This is a story about contradictions about sweeping "the facts" under the mat with a blaissey faire response....

                  as in ahhhh yaaaaawwwn.

                  "We checked that out and ** OUR findings were... anything to say... something different" to re-direct attention from the question. It's classic Bullshit !!!

                  ** different findings than University Officials who acted on police investigation results, police reports etc.

                  Ever hear the term " Where there's smoke there's FIRE "? Sure YOU have and in most cases it's properly allocated, assessed and seriously considered in regards to "how might that affect me".

                  Spelled out! " What are the consequences of this action?"

                  When are the members of this FORUM going to get clued/glued in RIGHT??? Call a spade a spade. Rather than act...

                  like a bunch of Co-Dependent people that neglect their ability to observe, process information and make decisions to take stances that are REAL and entirely REALITY based without undo judgement or prejudice.

                  Get to some rational decision making?

                  Too much sweeping the matter / issue under the mat. Too much... well better ignore that post as DAM ...he's nailed my agenda there.

                  The ONLY agenda that we need as Packer fans here, is simple this.

                  To encourage Packer WINNING. Remember that feelingPacker fans?

                  The article is ALL about this:

                  After signing Robinson on Monday despite the receiver's alcohol-related criminal issues, Packers general manager Ted Thompson traded for Morency about 48 hours later. He said the club examined these and other issues regarding Morency before making the deal for Gado, who was considered a model citizen.

                  "We studied that back when he came out of college," Thompson said, referring to the accusation of rape.

                  "We determined that he was accused of something but based on our information there was no substance to it."

                  Ted? "He was accused of...... something"??

                  That something was RAPE TED THOMPSON.... RAPE !!

                  RAPE ! RAPE !! RAPE !!! TED THOMPSON

                  Ahhh Ted..... your new acquire that you never even personally spoke to or did you even have a member of your scouting or Personnel Development Team speak to him, as in interview him? Did you rather take the word of the Texans that he's just a swell fella, Ted?

                  We have your media release after that trade of GADO = model Citizen and a better NFL Resume ... than someone you really knew DICK ALL about when you traded SAMKON GADO for ?? uhhhhh... RB Vernand Morency ???

                  Ted ,YOU didn't have a clue about who Vernand Morency is. What he was back whenever, isn't an issue today with me but who he IS TODAY ...IS.

                  Regarding the stolen bike, Thompson said, "It sounded like to me it was some sort of college stunt."

                  Ted. Vernand Morency was charged by Police with stealing a bike not charged with a college stunt... there is no cause of a charge for a Colege stunt usually Ted ..usually Ted, it (College Stunt) doesn't fall under a direct violation of the law.

                  Maybe you related the stealing of a bike or property not owned by Verand Morency with "the Packers customary riding of other's bikes to and from TC practises....???

                  What makes you tick Ted no longer matters... as YOU are finally revealing yourself and embarassing the GREEN BAY PACKERS and PACKER fans.

                  Please Ted Thompson.Clean up your act. PLEASE.
                  ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
                  ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
                  ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
                  ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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                  • #10
                    Apparently innocent until PROVEN guilty is not how some people view things in here.

                    I hope that everyone in here that gets all worked up over this, gets just as riled up over all the local people in their community that are raped, abused, assaulted, robbed, etc.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Sparkey
                      Apparently innocent until PROVEN guilty is not how some people view things in here.

                      I hope that everyone in here that gets all worked up over this, gets just as riled up over all the local people in their community that are raped, abused, assaulted, robbed, etc.
                      That's the reason everyone is worked up. Green Bay is not NYC. By bringing in Mossy Cade types, TT is turning us back into the Siberia of the NFL. Push Brett out and see what free agents want to come here!

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                      • #12
                        Re: MORENCY CARRIES BAGGAGE

                        By vote of the three executives, the Packers were judged to have gotten the better end of the trade by a 2-1 margin.

                        "There is no question about this kid's talent," one of the NFC personnel men said. "He could be a starter. But you've got to keep him on track."

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                        All I got out of that artical was this.......Geeze, sounds like we took a flier on a guy who could be great. Gado was obviously not working. I see this as another great move my Thompson.....If it doesn't work out, we lost a guy who couldn't run in the ZBS. If it works out, we got a hell of a back. No risk with some reward possibility. This seems like a typical Thomson move. Over time we'll be good. Maybe this guy can help us get there.
                        Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                        • #13
                          The rape accusation is sad. I think it is appropriate for McGinn to report it. To my mind, any time someone is accused of a nasty crime, I am suspicous of the person. I wonder if Ahman Green might be a jerk, for instance. But I don't have nearly enough evidence to make a decision, and I certainly wouldn't blacklist somebody based on an unproven accusation.

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                          • #14
                            I always like guys who play more than one sport. To me sports are about a general feel and athletic ability. Sometimes a guy can force himself to learn adn be good at one thing but some guys are just good at everything they do. It's kind of a knack.

                            Ingle Martin can punt, run, throw, play baseball...Whatever he does, he's good at. I like that trait.

                            Morency plays baseball and football at a level high enough to be drafted in both pro sports. That is a good sign. I'm kind of intrigued by the guy now. I think he might help us alot over the next couple years.
                            Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                            • #15
                              Who do you think voted no?
                              "I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley

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