Official Superb Owl LVII Discussion Thread

[call_me_ishmael]

You bumped you spinning reality for me? I'm touched.

Myers was very good pre injury. Not so great in his comeback year. I expect him to be good with another offseason of healing. You ignore that MVS got a big contract and started for 4 seasons. You act like he didn't exist because KC payed him big (the team that actually won the owl).

MVS - He didn't get a second contract with the Packers. Overrated player that they deemed not worth resigning. I think you view him more positively than I do. I view him as just a guy.

Myers - Eh, we'll see. Jury is still out I suppose but just about all the radio guys discuss needing to upgrade at the spot and think Tom is going to relegate Myers to the bench. That's not good for a second round pick.

We have no idea if Savage will play like he did in year 2 or year 3/4. He might get another contract and he in fact started for 4 season including 3 of them with 13 wins. You also say "3 guys" without mentioning 2 of them are all pro level, not "just guys".

I strongly disagree that Gary is an all-pro. So do the voters, because he has in fact never made a pro bowl or an all-pro team. He hasn't had ten sacks in a season yet, for example.

Jenkins I will give you is very good.

I didn't say they were guys. I said they were very good players.

Savage got benched to a street free agent so I wouldn't say it is trending well. We shall see!

2020 Runyan is "ok at best"? He has been the steadiest member of the OLine this last year. He has started for a team that won 13 games twice. He is a legit NFL starting G who will likely play 10 years. This was the worst draft, but if Love is a good NFL QB, that elevates it. And Dillon isn't Jones, but he is definitely getting a second contract. He was the 21st rated RB in the NFL last year in fantasy points. He is a good NFL player (most teams use time share at RB) Throw in 3 guys that played on ST quite a bit.

I disagree that Dillon is getting a second contract. In fact I would be shocked. He has the dude from Detroit written all over him. How are they going to afford him? I don't see it as Runyan is great or anything. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm open to that possibility. I view him as a serviceable piece but a weak link on the line. He is far more likely to get a second contract than Dillon though IMO.

Dillon looked really bad last year IMO. Not the same guy. He didn't make really any special plays and looked like a light weight.

That isn't really really bad. Thats pretty good. The reason we stunk is because Rodgers played like a bottom 5 QB by all metrics this year. The OLine took time to put it together early, and the one big mistake Gutes made was assuming he could re sign DAdams and when he couldn't the cupboard was bare.

Take Rodgers out of the equation. Just look at the drafts. They haven't yielded much beyond those R1 picks. He has knocked those out of the park clearly! But the team is not very deep due to the lack of other players contributing.

I'll knock Gutes for legit reasons. I think he stretched the cap too thin. I think he shouldn't have drafted Love in a WR rich draft. But lets be fair. We all hated the Gary pick and he is a stud.

Whatever point you think you are making is negated by the overall organizational success of the Gutes era. Now, if we come out and win 4 games with Love starting next year....then you might have a point.

I am all for stretching the cap so I don't fault him there. I don't think drafting Love was a good idea either but I agree the jury is still out there.

The overall success of the era is carried by TT players and FAs. Now is the time where we need to cut some of these older guys to have capable players on cheap contracts ready to take their place. But those players don't exist on the Packers roster. That's the crux of the matter. The team is not deep. It's very top heavy.

[bobblehead]

I'll spend about 5 seconds on this. Gary is a flat out stud. He had 6 sacks in 9 games this year. His pressures are top notch, and he has become a plus run defender.

I hate savage. I was simply making a point. I think they made a mistake picking up the 5th year option.

MVS was rated pretty valuable by me and the winner of the Owl.

That dude from Detroit was the #3 scoring RB in fantasy this year. If Dillon has that written all over him I'll take it.

You said 1-1.5 contributors per year. I pointed out he has averaged over 2 starters per year with some contributors sprinkled in.

This year will tell us a lot about Gutes. We trade Rodgers and the entire offense is his outside Bak and Jones. The entire D is his outside Clark I believe. Rodgers played really bad this season and that is why we finished 8-9. No 2 ways about that. If we win 10 next year with Love, you can't say Gutes is drafting poorly.

[RashanGary]

I hope to one day find me a lady who sucks me off as enthusiastically as bobble polishes Gute.

[bobblehead]

I hope to one day find me a lady who sucks me off as enthusiastically as bobble polishes Gute.

Yea, but marriage is the opposite. Here, you forget all the negative shit I say about gutes. In marriage you will forget all the good shit.

[Fritz]

Rashan, you will find her one day, and it will be heavenly. So you'll decide to marry her, and there's nothing like marriage to take a woman's sexual initiative away. She'll want to give you that enthusiastic head as much as Aaron Rodgers wants to play in Green Bay in January.

[bobblehead]

Rashan, you will find her one day, and it will be heavenly. So you'll decide to marry her, and there's nothing like marriage to take a woman's sexual initiative away. She'll want to give you that enthusiastic head as much as Aaron Rodgers wants to play in Green Bay in January.

Why is the bride smiling when she walks down the isle?

Because she knows her days of giving blowjobs are behind her.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

You sound like my parents generation when the Beatles appeared on the Ed Sullivan Show. And they're called the greatest generation. I'm almost 65. I've come to the shocking conclusion that I'm not the prime target audience anymore. So I don't really expect to like the Super Bowl halftime show. And I didn't. I'm kind of at peace with that.

Music has the ability to traverse time, space, and even race. Lately, I've been finding myself checking out Olivia Rodrigo and your favorite redcoat, Pink Floyd.

[bobblehead]

You are right apb. Music transcends. I listen to 60s. I listen to rap. I listen to grunge. I even listen to johnny cash and hank sr.

[MadtownPacker]

All of you only listen to English music like typical crackaz. There are so many songs in other languages that are great.

[red]

All of you only listen to English music like typical crackaz. There are so many songs in other languages that are great.

[Fritz]

All of you only listen to English music like typical crackaz. There are so many songs in other languages that are great.

Damn right.

[bobblehead]

All of you only listen to English music like typical crackaz. There are so many songs in other languages that are great.

Does shakira count? I'll listen to her in any language.

[Teamcheez1]

Going to watch the Packers- Steelers Superbowl on the NFL network this morning and dream of better days to come.

[Jaire]

Going to watch the Packers- Steelers Superbowl on the NFL network this morning and dream of better days to come.

hahaha. I just did that last night. I haven't seen it in full since 2011. That offense was not nearly as good as I remember and they were down to the last man standing. It adjusted my perspective a bit.

[bobblehead]

hahaha. I just did that last night. I haven't seen it in full since 2011. That offense was not nearly as good as I remember and they were down to the last man standing. It adjusted my perspective a bit.

So you realize Rodgers wasn't the hero you remember? I have tried to tell people D wins owls forever. Go rewatch the NFCC game from that year. Rodgers best play was a TD saving tackle after his near pick 6.