Who Will Aaron Rodgers Play For In 2023 (Or Will He Play)?

[Fritz]

FROM MIKE GREENBERG (A JETS LOVER)

I have heard that Rodgers has sent signals to the Jets that there is no reason to rush, that he's not coming til May anyway so there is no reason to rush

I have wondered if Arod, who is not a dumb guy, has been "helping" the Jets negotiate. Surely he'd have known that the "90% sure" he was going to retire thing would lower his trade value, as it indicated he's more likely to be one-and-done than he is to play two or more years.

And if he wants that SB ring now, or at least to have another MVP year, it behooves him - and the Jets - to have them keep as many of this year's picks as possible. Signaling publicly you were thisclose to retiring would slow the process down and help the Jets by giving them a bit of public cover for pulling back on the (supposed) earlier offer. And if Greenberg is correct, Rodgers is signaling to his not-yet-new-team that they should hold fast and wait the Packers out - thus keeping all of this year's picks, which is in Rodgers's best interests.

As to Dan and his claim about trading valuable assets and all that, and saying this isn't like some old coffee table - well, that's how Dan is treating this. Not that Rodgers is a human being who is employed by a monopoly known as the NFL and is seeking a good employment situation for himself - but is, like a coffee table, something to be bartered at the best price possible. I get it, that point of view, but it certainly treats Rodgers more like a coffee table than a human being who is trying to put himself in what he thinks is his best employment situation.

[call_me_ishmael]

Bullshit!! ARod is a valuable piece. You trade him for value. If Gute flat out released ARod, I would want Gute fired tomorrow.

I said the same thing when the BF shit was going down. If you own the rights to a valuable asset you trade it for value.

This ain't an old coffee table you are giving to Goodwill.

Well so far no one wants that trade and the value. You signed the guy to start, so if you aren’t gonna facilitate a trade then you start him. I doubt that’s going to happen, so cut him loose. Forcing him to sit out for a year in his career when Gute fucked up is no acceptable IMO.

[ThunderDan]

Well so far no one wants that trade and the value. You signed the guy to start, so if you aren’t gonna facilitate a trade then you start him. I doubt that’s going to happen, so cut him loose. Forcing him to sit out for a year in his career when Gute fucked up is no acceptable IMO.

I have never said it is ok for ARod to sit on the bench that is stupid. If you don't want him trade him. A 7th round pick is better than releasing him.

[texaspackerbacker]

I just saw an article by a media puke named Miguel Anel Fernandez or something like that saying the Jets may be backing away from the trade hahahahahahahahahaha. Now this is no more believable than any of the rest of the crap those know-nothing bastards write, but it still is nice to see.

[run pMc]

Bullshit!! ARod is a valuable piece. You trade him for value. If Gute flat out released ARod, I would want Gute fired tomorrow.

I said the same thing when the BF shit was going down. If you own the rights to a valuable asset you trade it for value.

This ain't an old coffee table you are giving to Goodwill.

I 100% agree you don't give/throw him away for nothing, but determining his value is tricky in part because of age, contract, and most recent performance.
What is his value?

What is the value of a 39 year old QB who has been considering retirement the past 2-3 offseasons, has just come off his worst season as a starter, and has a $60M bonus payable before the 1st week of the season?
What is the value of a 4-time MVP QB?

You could argue the MVPs are past performance, not current value. It's possible it could approach future value, but what are the odds? Who was the last 39 year old to win MVP?

I think in a vacuum his talent and performance warrant more than a couple of Day 2 picks. His age and contract tell otherwise. That dumbass contract screws everyone in this situation IMO (except maybe Rodgers and his agent).

[Bretsky]

I have wondered if Arod, who is not a dumb guy, has been "helping" the Jets negotiate. Surely he'd have known that the "90% sure" he was going to retire thing would lower his trade value, as it indicated he's more likely to be one-and-done than he is to play two or more years.

You are actually wondering ?

I think the shitbag absolutely knows what he's doing.

It would almost be funny if Gutebag struck back with some Dirty Pool right back at Karen.

Trade him for a bag of shit to the worst team in the NFL who will take him. Let AROD retire. That'd be maybe our best "cap" scenario.

I am not a Gutebag fan; to be honest I still don't know what I think of his overall work. But I respect the fact he's not bending over right now for the JETS, who had compensation parameters but now have welched out of that deal.

[ThunderDan]

I 100% agree you don't give/throw him away for nothing, but determining his value is tricky in part because of age, contract, and most recent performance.
What is his value?

What is the value of a 39 year old QB who has been considering retirement the past 2-3 offseasons, has just come off his worst season as a starter, and has a $60M bonus payable before the 1st week of the season?
What is the value of a 4-time MVP QB?

You could argue the MVPs are past performance, not current value. It's possible it could approach future value, but what are the odds? Who was the last 39 year old to win MVP?

I think in a vacuum his talent and performance warrant more than a couple of Day 2 picks. His age and contract tell otherwise. That dumbass contract screws everyone in this situation IMO (except maybe Rodgers and his agent).

As I have argued in tax court against IRS lawyers, value is what you can get. Doesn’t matter if it is $1 or $1,000,000.

Obviously, it’s taking a while but eventually it will get done. But as we both agree, you don’t let him go for nothing.

[red]

If rodgers is working behind the scenes with the jets, is this considered tampering?

Or is it anything goes because we have the jets permission to go talk to him

He’s still a packer, if he’s actively working to lower his trade value then maybe the team should file tampering changes with the league

Would be funny if the jets get stripped of multiple first round picks, and don’t even get rodgers

[bobblehead]

I could not disagree with you more on this one Bretsky. I think the Packers owe it to him to let him play where he wants. Ideally they just cut him outright. Consider it a past good deeds thing.

The Packers signed ARod to a contract and don't want to honor it. They are choosing to move on. Don't disrespect the guy further.

Realistically they should just do the deal with Jets and take a 2nd which is a pretty good deal IMO.

He signed the deal and the packers have no obligation to him other than to let him play it out in GB if nothin else.

[bobblehead]

He made market rate money - if not less. He certainly would have made more as a FA. I don't like the argument that he made crazy money. It seems sort of silly to me. I don't see how it's relevant!

The Packers can't cut him - I agree - and Rodgers likely doesn't want to be cut anyway since he has such a phat deal and wouldn't get it again.

The point is the Packers signed him to a contract and Rodgers was willing to honor that - the Packers are not. As such, they should do right by the player IMO. We can agree to disagree.

We know nothing of what each side has said to each other. I suspect this deal was signed with the idea that if either side wanted to move on they would agree to work together to make it equitable for both. But I don't know that anymore than you do for certain.

[texaspackerbacker]

I think in a vacuum his talent and performance warrant more than a couple of Day 2 picks. His age and contract tell otherwise. That dumbass contract screws everyone in this situation IMO (except maybe Rodgers and his agent).

Is that what you woulda been saying after either of the previous two seasons? Or after last season if not for the injury as well as the receivers situation? The whole bunch of ya'all haters in here seems to be blinded to that stuff. Outside of this forum, people don't seem to be that damn dumb. Probably the Jets are not. Hopefully LaFleur, Gutekunst, etc. are not.

I'm really really hoping both sides stand firm, and no trade happens. Would Rodgers then retire? I very much doubt it.

[Fritz]

What both sides have to lose hahahaha .......

For the Jets, it's the difference between being a Super Bowl contender, one of the best teams in the NFL with Rodgers, and in the abyss - again - without him.

For the Packers, if by some miracle, Rodgers comes back and plays as well as anybody with a brain expects he can/will, they are at or very close to the absolute top of the NFL. If he is gone, no amount of high draft picks are gonna prevent them from falling to near the bottom of the league for who knows how many years without him.

So making the trade happen means everything to the Jets and nothing to the Packers - before the draft or after, before June or after, that's just the way it is.

This is the post that says it all: for you, whoever has Rodgers (Jets or Packers) is going to be great. Whoever doesn't have him is going to suck.

So if you turn out to be wrong, this is the post I'll bump. If you're right, you can bump it.

[texaspackerbacker]

Yeah, feel free to do that. I definitely will be doing that and rubbing it in to all of ya'all when it turns out to be true. That's pretty much why I wrote it.

For the record, though, I didn't say "suck". I said "be mediocre" - they might win 6-8 games without him, the Packers I mean. The Jets without him will continue to suck.

[Fritz]

Yeah, feel free to do that. I definitely will be doing that and rubbing it in to all of ya'all when it turns out to be true. That's pretty much why I wrote it.

For the record, though, I didn't say "suck". I said "be mediocre" - they might win 6-8 games without him, the Packers I mean. The Jets without him will continue to suck.

For me, in a seventeen-game regular season, eight or nine wins is mediocre. Six is definately suckage. Seven is, in my mind, pretty sucky, too.

[Joemailman]

Rodgers arriving in snowy Green Bay for offseason workouts. Maybe Tex was right!

https://twitter.com/i/status/1648036237389754386