What is the Main Reason GB has not won a Super Bowl in the past 12 years ?

[Bretsky]

Thoughts Rats ?

[Bretsky]

Lack of Talent to get us to the next level ?

Lack of coaching/leadership ?

Lack of quality QB play in incredibly key playoff games ?

[NewsBruin]

I went with the highest on the orgy chart.

My transcontinental thought is that we lost some key years with Ted in cognitive decline and no one on the tiller to get top-of-the-league drafting and manage QB and head coach's head games. There were a lot of repeated frustrating instincts that got worse and worse over the seasons. Mike turtles on playcalling, so Aaron takes it upon himself to chuck the ball over the mountains. I wish there were someone who could have gotten them to change their approaches.

Also i believe (without any good stats to back me up) we overachieve on our OL drafting and development and underachieve on our DL drafting and development.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I went with the highest on the orgy chart.

My transcontinental thought is that we lost some key years with Ted in cognitive decline and no one on the tiller to get top-of-the-league drafting and manage QB and head coach's head games. There were a lot of repeated frustrating instincts that got worse and worse over the seasons. Mike turtles on playcalling, so Aaron takes it upon himself to chuck the ball over the mountains. I wish there were someone who could have gotten them to change their approaches.

Also i believe (without any good stats to back me up) we overachieve on our OL drafting and development and underachieve on our DL drafting and development.

How you manage to move your mind from one continent to another without physically moving it from one continent to another is puzzling me. Are you an offspring of Professor X, and you’ve inherited his transcontinental mind mutant “disorder”?

[texaspackerbacker]

How about "none of the above" or maybe "all of the above"? Probably "luck" should also be a choice.

Whoever gets the blame probably should also get the credit for having such an overall great record over the same time period - which to me is infinitely more important.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

How about "none of the above" or maybe "all of the above"? Probably "luck" should also be a choice.

Whoever gets the blame probably should also get the credit for having such an overall great record over the same time period - which to me is infinitely more important.

“If you ain’t first, you’re last.” - Ricky Bobby

Sometimes playoffs heartbreaks fuck with the mind moreso than missing the playoffs altogether. Sometimes it is better to tank a season for the rights to draft a difference maker than to lose in the NFC Championship game.

That being said, Thompson’s incompetence at upgrading the D prevented the Packers from winning another ring during Butte’s prime years. Perry instead of hip hop safety Harrison Smith. Peprah, Jennings and Dix all couldn’t hold Collins’ jockstrap. Claymaker was forced to play ILB. Gunter covered Julio Jones.

Gutekunst’s refusal to draft diva rock catchers with premium picks, especially Metcalf and/or Brown prevented the Packers from winning it all during Butte’s “back nine.” Furthermore, the German Shepherd failed miserably to acquire OBJ. And, making matters worse, German Shepherd couldn’t draft a tight end worth a fuck.

Suffice it to say, Polar Bear and German Shepherd are the perpetrators behind the shameful nonexistence of a glorious Butte Dynasty.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

Talent, coaching, and luck..

[Bretsky]

How about "none of the above" or maybe "all of the above"? Probably "luck" should also be a choice.

Whoever gets the blame probably should also get the credit for having such an overall great record over the same time period - which to me is infinitely more important.

Tex Tex Tex. You know my polls don’t throw fluffy slow pitch softball questions out there like Pattycakes questions he tosses out to the media whore )

[run pMc]

Main reason? It's really, really hard to do.
And yes, requires luck with injuries and matchups.

Marino won zero. Brees got one. Kelly got to FOUR and won none. Rivers never got there. And yet Eli Manning.
There are plenty of franchises who have had great QBs and either never went, never won, or only won one SB.

[ThunderDan]

As I look back at it, in the beginning I think it was luck. Towards the end of ARod's career, I think it is all on TT/Gute.

[call_me_ishmael]

Well if they had superior talent to everyone else, they'd have won, no, so it falls on the GM in my opinion. Organizations win super bowls - and they do so by putting great players at the important positions and largely going all in when the talent is close.

I think the Packers have been really close several times but always a player or two away. Why didn't they go and get that player? The 2014 and 2021 (the one that lost to the Bucs) teams were absolutely good enough to win it all. 2014 especially. I'd like to see the Packers be more aggressive in player procurement. I do think they're more aggressive under Gooter but still not as aggressive as I'd like when there close. It is insane to me we started Dynamo Dean Lowry when we were so close to two super bowls, and never had a #2 to Adams during that time. They probably would have won a Super Bowl and possibly two if they had difference makers at those spots.

Take Robert Quinn on the Eagles. He didn't cost much, yet made an outsized impact. Why are the Packers always asleep instead of making those moves?

[bobblehead]

Bad luck and the perfect storm. I mean, I blame fat mike for the seattle loss where he went into a shell and counted possessions. I put the majority on fat mike, but there is other blame to be shared. TT drafted poorly in his latter years. I think Rodgers has shrunk in the MiLF years, especially in clutch moments. Officials really fucked us against TB. We lost several NFCC games with fluke plays. Micah Hyde letting a pick 6 through his hands against Kapernick. Guys fumbling who never fumble seems to be a regular theme.

I would like to see a marquee DC who preaches fast physical football instead of worshipping at the religion of "being in the right spot". We have hired retread after retread for DCs. Not retreads who had dominant defenses either, but retreads who had "ok" seasons to go along with bad ones.

Again, I put a lot at M3s feet, but just a combination of things, and rarely the same thing twice. Its frustrating.

[bobblehead]

As I look back at it, in the beginning I think it was luck. Towards the end of ARod's career, I think it is all on TT/Gute.

Did goot NOT call PI on that pick at the end of the half vs. TB? Did Gute go into a shell and NOT run for the endzone against TB? That was a championship team that got fucked for reasons that are NOT gutes fault at all. Gutes has been GM for a very short time and he inherited probably the leanest of TT teams due to TTs decline. I'll write him off if we trade Rodgers and don't have a winning record (because he picked Love, and there is enough talent to win 9 games without Rodgers.)

[bobblehead]

Well if they had superior talent to everyone else, they'd have won, no, so it falls on the GM in my opinion. Organizations win super bowls - and they do so by putting great players at the important positions and largely going all in when the talent is close.

I think the Packers have been really close several times but always a player or two away. Why didn't they go and get that player? The 2014 and 2021 (the one that lost to the Bucs) teams were absolutely good enough to win it all. 2014 especially. I'd like to see the Packers be more aggressive in player procurement. I do think they're more aggressive under Gooter but still not as aggressive as I'd like when there close. It is insane to me we started Dynamo Dean Lowry when we were so close to two super bowls, and never had a #2 to Adams during that time. They probably would have won a Super Bowl and possibly two if they had difference makers at those spots.

Take Robert Quinn on the Eagles. He didn't cost much, yet made an outsized impact. Why are the Packers always asleep instead of making those moves?

But in your last sentence you negate your point. The eagles had superior talent and still lost. And they made a couple moves like Quinn, while the Chefs made none.

[MadScientist]

TE's dogshit for a decade. Almost no draft capital for WR. The problems start at the top. There was some bad luck with the injuries to Collins and Shields, and bumblefuck on the onside kick, but the main issue has been talent acquisition.