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  • #16
    His work with Tom Clements is paying off. Clements is an incredible QB coach. A former CFL qb, he knows how to talk "qb". Is it any coincidence that the arrival of Clements coincides with the progress Love has made with his footwork and carriage.





    "It's the things we've worked on the most, which is footwork, the proper drop, going through your progression, not getting stuck on a receiver, not being late with the ball," Clements said of Love after his appearance against the Philadelphia Eagles. "We work on different route concepts each week, we did a lot in the spring, but then you have to see it play out when you have a defense out there. You have to be able to go from 1-2-3 to your outlet quickly, and you can't lock on a guy. You have to process information quickly, figure out where to go, and your footwork plays into that as well. If your feet are right, and you're seeing things right, you're able to decide where to go with the ball. His footwork, rhythm and getting the ball off on time is where he's gotten a lot better.”

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    • #17
      Clements was a good hire. Was a little surprised he came back this year, but am glad he did. I think he's important in JL's development, he certainly helped AR.

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      • #18
        I 100% hope I am wrong but man Love just doesn't look good when he plays, again I hope he is a top 10 QB, hell I hope he is the best QB to play for the Pack I just do not see it.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
          I watched a video where they broke frames way down and compared Rodgers to Marino. They’re about equal with release.
          Considering I always thought Marino was on another level to everyone else ever then love will be slower than 12 by default.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Fritz View Post
            One area that Love still needs to work on is the eye-roll. But I think that comes with experience and confidence.
            LMFAO!!!!
            Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
              Considering I always thought Marino was on another level to everyone else ever then love will be slower than 12 by default.
              Yeah. They broke the frames way down. The guy said he was hearing Marino was the quickest ever and wanted to compare. It was dead equal. Rodgers might have been a hair quicker.

              Both guys look like they’re throwing darts.
              Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by run pMc View Post
                Clements was a good hire. Was a little surprised he came back this year, but am glad he did. I think he's important in JL's development, he certainly helped AR.
                One more reason to be optimistic about Love. I don't think he's be back if he thought Love was a hopeless cause.
                I can't run no more
                With that lawless crowd
                While the killers in high places
                Say their prayers out loud
                But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                A thundercloud
                They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                • #23
                  i'd like to see a QB run lefluers system and actually allow jones and dillon to run the ball more then rodgers allowed them to

                  a QB that hits the easy wide open throw over the middle instead of always trying for the low percentage ball deep along the sideline

                  the one small chance that rodgers allowed love to take the field this year, we saw that.

                  i think theres a reason that rodgers didn't take anymore snaps off after we all saw that love looked half way decent. if rodgers was that scared, then maybe we should all have some hope

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                  • #24
                    I'm with ya on that, Red. I'm actually excited to see a QB run LeFleur's system, see how it actually looks in action. As in the latter MM years, I think Rodgers bent the offensive system to his will, so I don't think we've really seen what a pure LeFleur system will look like.

                    I'm also excited by the possibility that the Packers won't end every half with only one timeout because they used them up waiting til the last second every play to get the play off. Very exciting. Maybe even occasionally run the hurry-up and try to put the other team's defense on its heels.
                    "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

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                    • #25
                      If your tendency on 3rd and short is to never take deep shots, defenses can dial in and stop you more consistently. Rodgers Packers were unpredictable on 3rd and short so the defense had to cover the whole field. Those shots help in other ways.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                        If your tendency on 3rd and short is to never take deep shots, defenses can dial in and stop you more consistently. Rodgers Packers were unpredictable on 3rd and short so the defense had to cover the whole field. Those shots help in other ways.
                        True, but you don’t have to run the deep route on 3rd and short every single time. And you don’t always have to throw to the deep guy every time when you have 3 other guys open short but past the marker

                        If you want to go deep on the first 3rd and short of the game, fine. Wanna do it the second time, cool. If you want to do it late in the game when we just need a drive to eat up clock or to give the defense a breather, not such a good time

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                        • #27
                          Who knew you could utilize speed in the middle of the field like this?

                          I can't run no more
                          With that lawless crowd
                          While the killers in high places
                          Say their prayers out loud
                          But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                          A thundercloud
                          They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                          • #28
                            Is that Love or a blown coverage though? My understanding is Aaron doesn't throw over the middle often but I would be shocked if he wouldn't make that throw.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
                              Is that Love or a blown coverage though? My understanding is Aaron doesn't throw over the middle often but I would be shocked if he wouldn't make that throw.
                              It's called getting rid of the ball quickly and in rhythm so the receiver has a chance to make a move before the defender is on him. Something Rodgers didn't do enough of in recent years, especially last year.
                              I can't run no more
                              With that lawless crowd
                              While the killers in high places
                              Say their prayers out loud
                              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                              A thundercloud
                              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                              • #30
                                Joe, you've been a bad boy. The NFL has blocked your video. Be ready for some goombas with vinyl jackets featuring The Shield to come knocking on your door some night soon.
                                "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                                KYPack

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