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  • Why Ted Thompson ? WHY Support Ted Thompson ?

    In my most fair assessment, Ted Thompson has elected to adopt HIS AGENDA... to attain a HIGH DRAFT PICK, at the expense of the current Roster of Green Bay Packer's.

    We all deserve a REAL CHANCE to WIN.

    Any Packer fan, that this early in a season actually pulls for us to loose... that bother's me. Is that a good thing?

    A GM of any NFL Franchise has to have a PLAN set down to WIN not LOOSE.

    No GM of an NFL Team should operate within an agenda that is determined by A TEAM (the Packers) losing football games, and assuring " that result "

    I'm concerned, that a Packer fan would actually admit that losing football games from the outset of a Season is a good thing. Just to attain a better Draft pick.

    To suffer on ... PACKER FANS .. LOSS's, to get that high pick (who could well bust) over the hopes of a 53 Man roster to win NFL football games, and maybe compete for an NFCN championship is irrational thinking.

    If Ted is actually giving it his all, then he's failing desperately. I wanted him to adopt what I deem " the Belichick Method/Approach ", or to continuously be bringing in players to upgrade as best he can.

    We havn't a DAM clue what TED THOMPSON is about.

    PLEASE don't go to well he needs time. Please project the chance of US enjoying SUCCESS based ONLY on the good things that TT's has brought to " the Green Bay Packers ".

    I have never obseved anything, even resembling a Plan from Ted Thompson.

    Ted Thompson hasn't ever admitted to us the TRUTH regarding " the fact " he's RE-BUILDING ? I ask myself why.

    To attempt to deceive Packer fans, possibly the most knowledgeable football fans that support any NFL TEAM? To condition OUR HC to dodge the correct response to the question:

    "Are the Green Bay Packers in a Re-builfding mode. Mike?"

    ... and to observe Mike McCarthy's response as something other than the TRUTH is disturbing to me.

    It's all about Ted Thompson's AGENDA. The SECRET PLAN. Good Grief ?

    NO... BAD GRIEF.

    Even the media are admitting that they don't have access they once had to "the Packers" not access to all the players and certainly not to FIRST LINE Coach's. We read that yesterday.

    The media once had full access now restricted to Tuesdays and Thursdays. The media can't speak (to other than) Assistant Coach's? What is that all about?

    We are the GREEN BAY PACKER fans, and what it's really all about. Packer fans have to know what exactly is going on, and we rely on accurate reporting from the professional media and OUR efforts at PACKERRATS to see where we are.

    You have read the v. criticle Cristil Blog, that FIRES direct shots at " the Packers " as a whole. That " flys in the face" of some member's here. Members that support Ted Thompson with total faith/Trust.

    I ask myself. How is Ted Thompson's decision making working out for the team/players?

    Cristil's assessments and his reporting, "annoys the Dickens out of YOU people"... as it's too direct, too negative, too " the Packers are dead in the water ". It is judged good, bad or indifferent reporting, when "in fact" it reveals tons to the uninformed NFL fan.

    Is Ted Thompson competent for OUR needs? Did Ted Thompson prove his competence yesterday, today... will he then do so tomorrow?

    I try to get a read on Ted Thompson, and from that assess his ability and promise for us, for the Packer Team.

    That means a REAL PLAN, instituted in an Open and REALITY Based PROCESS.

    To see OUR Team become competitive again. WIN football games.
    To do all that is necessary to secure WINS,

    I am not going off M3 yet. He's just possibly another fit for TT's agenda? A fit for Ted?

    The integrity of OUR GM and his Boss/Boss's has to be called into question or be answerable to 7 Wins and 18 loss's since Bob Harlan went with OUR GM Ted Thompson.

    Ted Thompson plans to elevate OUR Team via the DRAFT as a first priority. Isn't that all well and nice. We have several people here with the ability to establish a MODEL to prove he's out to lunch.

    Hint: Free Agency.

    Hint: Adversity leading to career ending injury

    Hint: Retirement of once v. talented players for a myrid of reasons.

    Hint: Oh that was a good draft... gets to reality.

    Hint: Geee that was a Super Draft pick but he becomes a Free Agent and all that gets to.

    I am observing a man who leaves too much to be desired. He has clearly missed way more often that he hit the target on his first Draft.

    Today his second Draft is in the assessment stage.

    The counter argument " let's just wait and see ". Wait and see?? When we are ONLY 7 wins and 18 LOSS's, including preseason games. Are we going to do any better in 2006? Wait and see what?

    Some posters here believe, that suddenly or by mid Season. We'll have the experience for OUR young and inexperienced players (ie the OL) to go on some run of wins, and turn attention to a more prosperous 2007 season.

    I deem that. Magical thinking.

    Also...

    I disagree with the preseason games don't count stance.

    The REALITY of Team Positional Depth - is necessary to deal with adversity throughout the Regular Season.

    TC and Preseason Games are a clear indication of Coaching SUCCESS to determine REAL TEAM DEPTH, on both sides of the ball. To determine the BEST fit at all positions for OUR Roster,in terms of Roster Depth.

    How many TC prospects have any real opportunity to succeed in becoming added players to OUR 53 Man Roster?

    REAL Talent should be the only basis of assessment, yet we know "in reality", that an invested draft status and EGO based decisions, are a factor of predetermination... as to who are LOCKs on OUR Roster.

    My experience tells me, that there were about 40 LOCKS as starters and 2nd string backups in TC.

    So in TC / Preseason Games, out of a TC Roster of 90 Men, approx. 13 Roster Spots are " in reality " avail. for some 50 TC hopefuls.

    13 spots represents 13/53 or 24.52 % or one quarter of OUR Roster is arrived at in TC and Preseason games.

    If we are losing Preseason games. Our second and third stringer's are not measuring up to the opposition's. Therefore, it holds that OUR Team Depth is inferior to that oppositions Team Depth.

    Consequently due to adversity OUR problems will go from bad to worse.

    TC / preseason games are used to determine where the GM has to focus on any needed upgrade where positional depth is weakest.

    That argument that preseason games don't count lowers the winning percentage to 4/13 or 0.3077 or a 30.3 % LOSING Percentage.

    THAT is absolutely terrible.

    Why again has Ted Thompson " in reality " ignored a primary need on OUR Team...the Offensive Line?

    It was very much in decline last season, as evidenced by an increase over 2004 in QB pressures/hurries. How does Aaron Rodgers look behind OUR OL? Last season and to date in preseason games in 2006 how did Rodgers manage his ability to be OUR QB?

    NOT WELL !

    Even the whily Vet. Brett Favre, has had to use his bag of tricks to avoid getting punished more often, and possibly suffering a career ending injury.

    Ted Thompson's response.Three College Draft picks last April and after that little else. Will TT point the finger at adversity in TC and the loss of Klemm and Barry and now Coston and Spitz are banged up as well.

    The ZBS has resulted in only things -ve to date.

    Trouble running the ball until the second half of the Bear game when the Bears "D" relaxed on the run.

    Both of OUR Taclkles are lost in space in the ZBS where they were formerly if not Pro Bowl Tackles, certainly very capable of working the outside of the OL. Today Clifton and Tauscher are almost to the point of getting trashed.

    What's up with that?

    Where's Bubba Franks? Where's every WR but Donald Driver? TE David Martin now OUR FB? Favre throws only FIVE. .YUP that's right any Packer fan that hasn't been in touch...FIVE ..ONLY FIVE pass's in the first half of the BEAR's game.Forget Brett Favre.How many times has a starting QB made only FIVE pass's or less in the modern era of NFL football?

    Geeee this is "the new and improved WCO" we were promised from OUR HC who is regaled as the most successful OC in the HISTORY of ther Atlanta Falcon Organization blaw blaw blaw while he was with that Organization after leaving us in 1999 (2000-04).What offense??

    Is it Favre?

    It the DAM Offensive Line Packer fans. The absolute key to it all. Any real chance to win a football game depends on the OL..as a solidly built house depends on a proper foundation.

    BAD ... NO, REALLY BAD OL = Ted Thompson. . .and WHY ?
    ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
    ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
    ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
    ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

  • #2
    Woody, every poster here that I've seen communicate with you likes you a tonne. You have been nominated for MVP PR and everything.

    So, I will be gentle with my critique.

    Why did you feel it necessary tp post a novel, when all you really wanted to say was "TT sucks"?.

    I admit, I couldn't read it all. I got to one third through and paged down to see how far I had to read still. I broke down. Why do you insist on marathon posts?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Tarlam!
      Why did you feel it necessary tp post a novel, when all you really wanted to say was "TT sucks"?.

      I'll admit to also liking the Readers Digest version myself. But I'm A.D.D.

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      • #4
        I almost feel I like at a political convention

        Mind if I take it one step farther - CASTRO HAS TO GO, DOWN WITH THE PIGS!!!
        60% of the time it works every time.

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        • #5
          "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Scott Campbell
            Originally posted by Tarlam!
            Why did you feel it necessary tp post a novel, when all you really wanted to say was "TT sucks"?.

            I'll admit to also liking the Readers Digest version myself. But I'm A.D.D.
            I know Patler has requested an abridged version in the past.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Rastak
              Originally posted by Scott Campbell
              Originally posted by Tarlam!
              Why did you feel it necessary tp post a novel, when all you really wanted to say was "TT sucks"?.

              I'll admit to also liking the Readers Digest version myself. But I'm A.D.D.
              I know Patler has requested an abridged version in the past.
              I admit I have to skim as well...sometimes I worry that all the weird capitalization and excessive punctation is going to give me epilepsy.

              Woody would say its because of my dislike for canadians
              Busting drunk drivers in Antarctica since 2006

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              • #8
                yeah, a post like that takes me at least a half hour to read, i don't have that kind of attention span

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Tarlam!
                  Woody, every poster here that I've seen communicate with you likes you a tonne. You have been nominated for MVP PR and everything.

                  So, I will be gentle with my critique.

                  Why did you feel it necessary tp post a novel, when all you really wanted to say was "TT sucks"?.

                  I admit, I couldn't read it all. I got to one third through and paged down to see how far I had to read still. I broke down. Why do you insist on marathon posts?
                  Tarlam I am not MVP anything.

                  I am simply a Packer fan, that deeply cares about the direction we are taking and the way/manner it's being taking down on Packer fans. and Packer players as well.

                  there are other's here like me that disagree with who Ted Thompson is?

                  I don't post to recruit only to initiate an examination of OUR direction base in evidence, reality based analysis.

                  Who Ted Thompson is, is becoming quite clear.

                  To say "he sucks", Tarlam hardly describes what he is.

                  To say he sucks, is pointless. Crass and completely playing into the hands of people here, that imagine or believe he's wonderful.

                  The facts are being revealed gradually. Ted Thompson is exposing himself to just what he is.

                  Someone not to be TRUSTED with the FUTURE of "the Green Bay Packers".

                  I cannot deceive myself.
                  ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
                  ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
                  ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
                  ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by falco
                    Originally posted by Rastak
                    Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                    Originally posted by Tarlam!
                    Why did you feel it necessary tp post a novel, when all you really wanted to say was "TT sucks"?.

                    I'll admit to also liking the Readers Digest version myself. But I'm A.D.D.
                    I know Patler has requested an abridged version in the past.
                    I admit I have to skim as well...sometimes I worry that all the weird capitalization and excessive punctation is going to give me epilepsy.

                    Woody would say its because of my dislike for canadians
                    Here comes " the Re-direct strategy ". Cute.

                    Let's go all -ve here and scapegoat and drag my Nationality into it..nice Falco. Classic scapegoat.

                    Classic Re-direct instead of ever examing " the facts ".

                    FALCO... PLEASE spare us that. This isn't about Nationality, hardly.

                    Give me a break, PLEASE Falco.
                    ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
                    ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
                    ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
                    ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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                    • #11
                      I read the whole damn thing......

                      Good grief or rather bad grief

                      I do think Thompson has a plan. His plan is to build a roster that can compete and hopefully win a superbowl. His general belief is that if you continue to make good choices on the talent brought in that a great team will develop over time. HIs belief is that every time you reach for a lesser talented player or overspend for a player you need but know won't live up to his pay check, you take away from your teams ability to reach the ultimate goal. The ultimate goal isn't to win 3 more games today. The ultimate goal is to win the superbowl.

                      The Packers had 2 legit playmakers. Favre and Green. Acctually, Sharper was too. Favre is on the decline and one foot is already out the door. Green's career is in the same place and Sharper plays for the Vikings. He's pretty much on his last leg anyway as well.

                      The Packers need to start over completely. Not having any real playmakers will cause any team to lose. There are some glaring weaknesses and filling those holes now, no matter the cost to future cap space would help. Thompson would rather be patient. He said himself that he really wanted a RB but that it just didn't happen because their were better players available when he picked. Would you rather have Calhoun than Jennings? Time will have to tell but I think Jennings will be special. Anyway...the point is that he's being patient. Hopefully next year we'll get that RB. If not, we'll fill in with whatevers available and take antoher stab at it the following year. Over time, you end up with a full roster of great players much like Pittsburgh, NE and SEattle. All of those teams had top 10 picks and losing seasons from time to time. That is reality. The Packers will be fine. It won't be this year, get over it.
                      Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                      • #12
                        TT

                        With each passing week, more and more fans finally figure it out. Those who support TT and criticize those who don't keep falling back on the same excuses-give him more time and it's to early to tell. They will tell you that this is normal cause we were good for so long, now we need to rebuild. They say we're to inpatient and we should'nt expect to win.

                        However I would challenge them to deal in cold hard facts and show us all the great moves TT has made, cause I can sure show a lot of them that were STUPID. His mistakes to success ratio is poor at best. It is unfortunate that only time will settle this debate. One thing is certain, it's gonna be just as painfull for those who support TT as for those who don't.

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                        • #13
                          Re: TT

                          Originally posted by Packnut
                          It's gonna be just as painfull for those who support TT as for those who don't.
                          I don't feel any pain. The only pain I feel is when the Packers win a game and miss out on the chacne to pick higher. I have no hope for this year. After game 2 last year, I had no hope for last year either. We need another playmaker and a high pick will help us get there. We need a legit star on offense. I don't think Rodgers will be a star. A star RB would be perfect. Adrian Peterson could be that guy. I'm really hoping for Peterson, but I'm not going to get my hopes up.
                          Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                          • #14
                            If he wasn't trying to win right now, why did he sign Woodson? He's got the talented youthful prospect in Carroll. And, if he didn't care about winning this season, why on earth would he pick up Koren Robinson? He's a stop-gap for this year's kick returns.

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                            • #15
                              Re: TT

                              Originally posted by GregJennings
                              Originally posted by Packnut
                              It's gonna be just as painfull for those who support TT as for those who don't.
                              I don't feel any pain. The only pain I feel is when the Packers win a game and miss out on the chacne to pick higher. I have no hope for this year. After game 2 last year, I had no hope for last year either. We need another playmaker and a high pick will help us get there. We need a legit star on offense. I don't think Rodgers will be a star. A star RB would be perfect. Adrian Peterson could be that guy. I'm really hoping for Peterson, but I'm not going to get my hopes up.
                              Your faith in the drafting talents of TT amaze me. He has done NOTHING to even give a glimmer of hope. If you think stock-piling high draft choices is the answer, then you don't have a clue. Several teams have gone that route with no success. A GM need's to be able to bring in the right FA's and mix them in with the youth and I'd say there has been enough evidence to point out that TT is lacking in player evaluation skills.

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