Why Ted Thompson ? WHY Support Ted Thompson ?

[Scott Campbell]

Re: TT

He has done NOTHING to even give a glimmer of hope.

Oh come on. Nothing???? That's the same kind of hyperbole we've come to expect from the likes of Michael Irvin.

I don't think you need to exaggerate to make your point. Nick Collins, AJ Hawk, Greg Jennings, Ryan Pickett. All these guys give me a glimmer of hope.

[RashanGary]

Would you have said there was enough evidence of the management in Seattle when they were losing more than the won for a few years straight?

There is not enough evidence either way, but based on Thompsons general belief system and the draft records of the teams he has been associated with, I believe he will be a very good GM. I have a lot of faith in TT. If the team doesn't win 7 games next year I'll start to worry. They need to show some progress next year. We cannot be this young forever although it's understandable considering he shredded a roster that he hated and has only had 2 off seasons to build it back up. The aging FAvre and Green didn't help the Packers at all.

There were a bunch of things taht went into losing. Whatever the case, I believe it will turn around under TT's tenure. YOu cannot judge a GM until 4 or 5 years down the road. We know what Sherman was, 2 or 3 years from now, we'll have an idea of what Thompson is.

[Tarlam!]

Re: TT

He has done NOTHING to even give a glimmer of hope.

Bullshit.

He used the #5 pick. He could have EASILY traded it. You can argue VD or AJ, but you simply cannot argue TT does not want to build a winning team.

[Packnut]

TT

http://community.foxsports.com/blogs/RetroJenks5/2006/01/08/The_Green_Bay_Packers_Ted_Thompsons_Team

Just some of the "questionable" moves made by TT. I love his quote abot guards being "a dime a dozen". Yeah, tell me this guy gives hope for the future.


As for the Seattle connection. My understanding from reading is that TT's time in SEattle was more or less a "group" effort. Holmgren had a good deal of input on picks.

[BallHawk]

Well, I read half of it, but like someone said, I scrolled down to see how much I had left and had a heart attack.

2,543 WORDS!

Wow Woody, you shattered your old record by about 600 words.

[Packnut]

Re: TT

He has done NOTHING to even give a glimmer of hope.

Bullshit.

He used the #5 pick. He could have EASILY traded it. You can argue VD or AJ, but you simply cannot argue TT does not want to build a winning team.

No my arguement is that he is not TALENTED enough to build a winning team and I believe the FACTS to date prove it.

[Scott Campbell]

Re: TT

I love his quote abot guards being "a dime a dozen".

You just cited a blog by RetroJenks5. Maybe Ted actually said that, but you should really cite a better source.

[RashanGary]

Rodgers
Collins
Poppinga
Montgomery

Underwood and Murphy might have helped but that is just part of the game. We'll see how it pans out.

That first draft wasn't great although it could be considered good if Rodgers is a good NFL QB. He took a big risk drafting a QB. It always is, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. We'll have to wait and see.

As far as the next draft goes, I have alot of confidence. He seems to have taken more straight up players and less projects.

Hawk
Colledge *I think he's going to redeem himself this week*
Jennings
Spitz
Hodge
Blackmon
Tony Moll
Ingle Martin
Jolly

Everyone here except Martin who is a rookie QB and Blackmon who has been injured has shown the ability to play. We might get more starters from this one draft than Sherman did in 4 years of picks. Does it help us a whole hell of a lot today to have a great draft? NOt really, those guys have to mature into their primes to really make a positive difference. Will it effect how we see Thompson over time *big picture*? You bet your bottom dollar it will. You cannot judge the guy after one season. YOu cannot judge after 2. You have to let his draft picks go for 2 or 3 years before we know. We won't really know for another 4 or 5 years however we should see signs of improvement as early as next season. If not, I'll start to question him too.

[Tarlam!]

Re: TT

No my arguement is that he is not TALENTED enough to build a winning team and I believe the FACTS to date prove it.

Perhaps that's what you wanted to argue, but that's not what you wrote at all.

I also don't buy what you have agued now. The FACT is, we are 4-12 and 0-1 after 17 TT led games. Right now, your agument would appear to hold.

I am a patient person, and woe be tied I will not declare TT a failure until his tenure is done and dusted and his record speaks.

[Packnut]

Re: TT

I love his quote abot guards being "a dime a dozen".

You just cited a blog by RetroJenks5. Maybe he actually said that, but you should really cite a better source.

The "dime a dozen" quote was in the JSO also. I remember reading it and thinking " then I wish someone would give this guy a dime".

[Tarlam!]

Packnut is correct in maintaing TT said dimadozen in NFL...

[bbbffl66]

If he wasn't trying to win right now, why did he sign Woodson? He's got the talented youthful prospect in Carroll. And, if he didn't care about winning this season, why on earth would he pick up Koren Robinson? He's a stop-gap for this year's kick returns.

He picked up woodson because of the positive PR he could get. With Brett asking why the team wasn't getting any FA's, TT needed to do something. The KR signing was signing one of "his" people. Loyalty, pure and simple. While that trait is admirable, it was still a risky move.

[woodbuck27]

Re: TT

With each passing week, more and more fans finally figure it out. Those who support TT and criticize those who don't keep falling back on the same excuses-give him more time and it's to early to tell. They will tell you that this is normal cause we were good for so long, now we need to rebuild. They say we're to inpatient and we should'nt expect to win.

However I would challenge them to deal in cold hard facts and show us all the great moves TT has made, cause I can sure show a lot of them that were STUPID. His mistakes to success ratio is poor at best. It is unfortunate that only time will settle this debate. One thing is certain, it's gonna be just as painfull for those who support TT as for those who don't.

Packnut;

Member's here will take a stance to either support the evidence that Ted Thompson has made several errors as OUR GM or not.

Such is "the reality", that YOU and I must face ..be brought to task, to decide whether or not we can deal with?

That position in me will be a given. I don't just lend myself to trust TT based on observation and things he's done that I question.

I choose this position today,as I feel I must.

Given the "in OUR face" evidence, that Ted Thompson isn't performing as the GM, that I believe we deserve.

I no longer choose to make any excuse's for Ted Thompson, based on an assumption of he needs time to adjust to a learning curve.

I am strong... as YOU appear to me to be Packnut. You and I are people (just Packer fans) who make observation's of Ted Thompson and call a spade a spade.

I can well understand opposition to OUR positions at PACKERRATS.

I " in fact ", respect ALL member's that post at PACKERRATS. I will not choose, to always agree with some... if their position's support damage to OUR Packers.

YOU and I will... decide whether or not to " toss the snowballs" as we are challenged to do.

Some here will support us, (maybe), other's ONLY in silence. Still other member's here, will continue to excuse Ted Thompson, till one by one even they realize, their FAITH and TRUST in Ted Thompson is fruitless... if he can't get us back to being a winner.

It's sad for me to see Ted Thompson ignore REAL needs, and make moves that defy common sense. Make moves that will in all liklihood inevitably secure, ONLY a stop gap measure toward's the success that OUR Team should be enjoying today.

A win over the N.O. Saints, tomorrow?

Maybe, in spite of all that is really BAD with OUR Team, we may manage to secure that win.

Yet, much to the chagrin of a member/members here, that desire as many loss's as possible in 2006.

That turns my stomach. That is clearly wrong. That's NOT cool.

Hang in Packer fan. I am pretty much in agreement with YOU Packnut.

Win tomorrow or loose?

I believe strongly that Ted Thompson is deluded into believing he has all the answers "in the DRAFT "; when competence as a GM must be measured, in his ability to reason and react better for the overall good of the Green Bay Packer Organization, on a daily basis.

It's not right, to sacrifice the current overall hopes/faith of OUR existing Packer Roster... to failure.Our Vets deserve his full support and it hasn't arrived again in 2006.

Failure described in losing matchup's over and over, at the expense of Packer fans and the Packer Roster. Only as a means to serve or attend to... Ted Thompson's EGO and delusion, that he is the answer to lead us to the upper ranks of the NFL ,little more another Super Bowl.

This season is totally on the head of Ted Thompson. I sense strongly, that Ted Thompson's Boss's (must intervene) Packnut, and get a proper GM in place.

I have absolutely, no pick on OUR HC and his staff. Ted Thompson hired OUR HC, Mike McCarthy.

It's my observation, that Mike McCarthy endeavour's to do the BEST he can with the players supplied by Ted Thompson. To coach OUR Team, the BEST he can, with Ted Thompson's way winning out in his neglect of OUR OL.That has to concern OUR HC ,the Coaching staff ,players and Packer fans to a more or less degree.

The evidence is weighing in, that TT has failed the 2006 Edition of the Green Bay Packers. He didn't focus on needs that are perfectly obvious... for any REAL chance of having a decent Season in 2006.

He sacrificed the work and preperation of a vast majority of really dedicated Packers. Rather choosing to satify his selfish agenda to secure a high draft pick.

That cannot be refuted here, with proper support for a counter position.

Hang in there Packnut.

[woodbuck27]

If he wasn't trying to win right now, why did he sign Woodson? He's got the talented youthful prospect in Carroll. And, if he didn't care about winning this season, why on earth would he pick up Koren Robinson? He's a stop-gap for this year's kick returns.

The move to pick up WR/KR/PR Koren Robinson is clearly wrong in anticipating anything fr, him except for the immediate future as it now stands. Will he will actually play today isn't the question that must be properly asked.

There we go.

Has Left CB Charles Woodon lived up to your expectations?

He hasn't shown me what I would expect... if I was sitting in TT's chair and handing Charles Woodson, $10 Million as a FA.

Man did he ever take Ted down. It's not over.

Charles Woodson has to date been a disappointment, in his overall attitude. He had that same attitude in Oakland and ...

Ted Thompson had to know that.

Given that Ted Thompson did know that C.Woodson is in decline ( note his injury history) now ...add to that fact.

That certainly, in the eyes (minds) of Raider fans, Charles Woodson became a thorne in their eye. A former Pro Bowler with a poor attitude, that was always there, yet forgiven in his once solid play.

We needed to acquire a TEAMGUY..a player with an unselfish ability to lead the packers as a leader does. ala Favre and Ahman Green..

I believe that we are going to see that Charles Woodson is just another Ted Thompson mistake. It's certainly been nothing but headed that way sine TT acquired him... in late April 2006.

How has DT Ryan Pickett looked ( some good and bad there ) How about Marques Manuel? How about ben Taylor.

Maybe Ben Taylor get the call today at SAM? Is Brady Poppinga the answer at SAM? He's (B.P.)taken some heat hasn't he but he was likely rushed into the game as a frontline SAM when Taylor had practised for a lot longer to enable his oplay there?

Oh. That is on OUR HC and Linebackers Coach. Ted Thompson doesn't interfere in what goes on down on the field. Sure.

[drayge]

While I'm not entirely in TT's camp, I think this is getting ugly.

TT is looking for young playmakers - something that hasn't been a priority in GB since Ron Wolf. Those TT haters criticize those fans who want less wins for higher picks (a policy, by the way, I disagree with) - I see some of the same from several of you - who seem to want TT's players to fail so that you can justify this decision that he is at fault for the Packer's fall from the top. Right now Ted Thompson is the identity of the Green Bay Packers. While I'm not saying you can't disagree with his decisions, I think there is this mindset that almost hopes for this team to fail, so that Thompson would be fired. I find that just as wrong as anyone who wants to lose for draft picks.