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2023 2nd Round Pick #45 Luke Musgrave

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  • #16
    lol two tight ends.

    LaFleur draft. At least we didn't spend a first on one.

    If they pan out, we'll see what LaFleur's offense really looks like in a year or two, earlier if lucky.

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    • #17


      This is interesting. Bust rate by position, by round.

      Tight ends in the second round have a 50% chance of success. Kraft is more like a 2nd rounder. So we have a good shot at getting one and a decent shot of hitting on both.

      It’s kind of fun to browse through the packers.com rookie camp photo gallery. Van Ness and the tight ends are big framed guys with athleticism. Kinda exciting to see such big athletes added to the team.
      Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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      • #18
        Bust rate is an interesting metric. You only have so many starting spots at each position. If GMs draft more players at a position on average than there are starting roles, you necessarily will have higher bust rates. In a way, it's a metric that shows how many players are drafted relative to the number of starting positions.

        Of course it's more complex because longevity at a position is a factor as well as undrafted players that end up starting.

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        • #19


          Lots of breakdowns like this out there. I don't think it's a terrible pick, he's a big swing at the plate -- high upside guy who could cause problems for a lot of defenses.
          I'm glad they didn't take a TE in R1, the positional value isn't there. I'm fine with them doubling up on TEs. More swings at the plate are good if you can bat about .300.

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          • #20
            And big swings are a hell of a lot better than the pathetic bunt attempts they've been going at TE.
            2025 Ratpickers champion.

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            • #21
              Really puts into perspective how freaky Calvin Johnson was.

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              • #22
                Seeing Musgrave in uniform, it was hard to get a gauge of what kind of frame he had. But seeing the rookie camp photos, it looks like he could gain 15 lbs.

                Never know tho. Some guys just can’t get much bigger. But it looks like there’s room to grow.


                I wouldn’t necessarily want him playing at 267, maybe more like 260. But I’d like to see him become a good blocker so 252 seems too light.
                Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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