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2023 2nd Round Pick #50 WR Jayden Reed

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  • #16
    Originally posted by sharpe1027 View Post
    I think this kid is going to surprise some people. He's gonna make some big plays.
    His highlights give that impression. He didnt appear to be moving fast but everyone around him was trying to catch up. Like he was seeing things slow motion.

    At 0.42 sec he throws a better deep ball than erron did all last season.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
      All the above posts, and not a word of comparison to Amari Rodgers? That was my first thought when I saw the size and 4.45 40 in the RAS for Reed. If he really runs a 4.37, maybe he's more explosive and better than Amari. I hope so. Supposedly he has a drop problem too. Now who else was it that ran a 4.37 and dropped a lot of passes? Oh yeah, MVS.
      Because they aren’t even remotely comparable Tex. Reed is considerably taller and leaner, with far more explosive athleticism.

      Amari was ridiculously slow because he was 5’9” and 210 pounds. He was built like a RB.
      It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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      • #18
        Both under six feet and kinda slow based on the RAS. Hopefully, the 4.37 is accurate, not the 4.45. Also, hopefully he doesn't drop too many.
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        • #19
          The Packers love Senior Bowl WRs. Watson, Doubs, Melton, and now Reed are all guys who played relatively well at the Senior Bowl.
          "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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          • #20
            Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
            Both under six feet and kinda slow based on the RAS. Hopefully, the 4.37 is accurate, not the 4.45. Also, hopefully he doesn't drop too many.
            4.45 is fast, Tex.
            Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
              4.45 is fast, Tex.
              Yep. Greg Jennings was 4.47. Reed's 4.45 was 16th out of 45 in 2023 who tested.
              I can't run no more
              With that lawless crowd
              While the killers in high places
              Say their prayers out loud
              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
              A thundercloud
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                Yep. Greg Jennings was 4.47. Reed's 4.45 was 16th out of 45 in 2023 who tested.
                Sometimes I just wanna wring that old farts neck
                Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                • #23
                  If you’re looking at guys who are 6’2” and 215, 4.5 is plenty fast. If I guy is a good player and that size, I always feel good about 4.5
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                  • #24
                    Jayden Reed and Amari Rodgers are very different receivers.

                    Reed is smaller and much quicker. I think they wanted Rodgers to be kind of a gadget/YAC guy and a Deebo clone, then he came in slimmer last year which probably didn't help his cause. Watch Amari's college highlights and then Reed's -- you'll see a difference.
                    I like Reed in R3 but getting him in R2 along with a couple of Day 3 picks is ok. There were three players taken after him in R2 that I liked better (Gervon Dexter, Rashee Rice, DJ Turner) but he's fills a nice complementary role in the offense and he can return punts right away. Amari was never the punt returner this guy is.

                    And yes, 4.45 is fast enough. MVS ran a 4.37.

                    Amari's RAS card: https://ras.football/ras-information/?PlayerID=19343
                    Jayden's : https://ras.football/ras-information/?PlayerID=17156

                    Reed's 10 yard split is considerably faster than Rodgers'. Would have liked to see better agility or explosion numbers from Reed. Slot WRs tend to have weird RAS scores.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                      If you’re looking at guys who are 6’2” and 215, 4.5 is plenty fast. If I guy is a good player and that size, I always feel good about 4.5
                      Check out Davante Adam's RAS card: https://ras.football/ras-information/?PlayerID=11166
                      'Poor' speed (4.56 40), 'Okay' agility, 'Great' explosion, 'Good' size. Long arms.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by run pMc View Post
                        Check out Davante Adam's RAS card: https://ras.football/ras-information/?PlayerID=11166
                        'Poor' speed (4.56 40), 'Okay' agility, 'Great' explosion, 'Good' size. Long arms.
                        Yeah, you want a guy to be athletic in other ways and have size. But if they have size like Jordy, Davante or Cooper Kupp, they don’t have to be as fast.
                        Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                        • #27
                          Jerry Rice wasn't a burner, and he wasn't a big dude. You don't have to be an elite athlete to be a great player, but it sure helps.
                          A lot of picks are taken on traits or upside - I'll use Quentin Johnson as an example. He's a better athlete than football player right now with the belief that with time and coaching he'll become a good WR.

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                          • #28
                            I read executives had Jerry Rice timed as well as 4.55. But in that era, there wasn’t as much training for running these drills. I suspect Rice was more like a 6’2 4.45 kind of guy if he prepared the way guys do now. Maybe even better. Jerry Rice was very fast. You could see it.
                            Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                            • #29
                              You know, the more I learn, the more I think the Packers really kinda liked the guy - more than some whom we thought they would pick - and they also were confident he'd be around later, so they traded back twice, being sure he'd still be there.

                              Don't know if that was because Mingo was gone, or if they just liked this guy. But they clearly liked him better than that SMU (?) receiver they brought in - Rashee Rice, was his name? I think he was still available when they picked Reed.
                              "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                              KYPack

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                              • #30
                                Rice went a few picks after Reed. Given the choice of the two I'd probably have leaned Rice but don't fault them for taking Reed. At a minimum Reed should be able to run some routes out of the slot, do some jet motion stuff, and return punts.
                                He's a far better PR than Amari ever was -- he housed 3 in college.

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