They are in the same bucket as politicians and lawyers for me. Not all are a bad, but most have an agenda—that most like to hide.
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Just read the articles that keep showing up. Most of the bastards are ignorant. They don't know as much about OUR team as most of us, like RG said. And worse, they have a God damned agenda to stir up trouble. Not football in this case, but now I see outlandish crap about how Giannis should go somewhere else, some damned east or west coast team maybe ..... sheeeeesh, that after all the shit they stirred up about Rodgers. If that ain't enough to make you hate and distrust the shitheads, then you ain't much of a home team fan.
And yeah, I know continuing to read the damned click bait contributes to the problem, but I like to think raining rotten comments on them in here and other venues makes up for my complicity.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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lolOriginally posted by HarveyWallbangers View PostCripes, how many Bears fans did we draft? Van Ness, Reed, and Clifford all Bears fans.
That reminds me that the Bears draft sucked.
..... but it's the best favor we can do for these Bears fans is bring them deliverance to a real team. lol
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This thread seems to be more popular than the "didn't like" thread so I'll consolidate.
Things I didn't like. I'm not nearly as excited about the later rounds as I was last year. I loved the Tom and Enagbare picks from the jump. I also think Walker and Ford in the 7th were great value. This years later picks didn't excite me at all, but I could see several being contributors without any of them being genuine starters.
That being said we had the advantage of picking early in the first 3 rounds and it paid off. LVN is the real deal. If he improves off his awesome bull rush the sky is the limit. Kraft was an absolute steal in the 3rd. Probably the best value of any pick we made. Musgrave is probably a late first in a lot of drafts. We capitalized big time on the TE depth in this draft. Reed I'm not high on. I just don't see his skill set translating. Slot return guys who are somewhat smallish probably have as high of a 1st/2nd round bust rate as any position in the game. I get why they traded back 2x though because no one in that area was exciting. I feel like Gutes is trying to force someone into that gadget role even if the right guy isn't available.
Overall I'm not disappointed with the picks. Its just that only the top 3 of 4 really make me think they will be long term starters.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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The LVN pick is... fine. He fits almost exactly what GB likes at Edge, he's athletic with plenty of upside and he's young at 21.
I really like the receiver picks: Musgrave, Reed, Kraft, Wicks, Dubose. I feel pretty confident they will get at least 2 good players out of that group. Will take some patience though, rookies rarely make an immediate impact.
The rest of the picks don't do a lot for me.
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I don't know much about specific picks, but I kinda like the strategy of picking multiple guys at a position of need. You draft three wide receivers, you gotta think one will work out, anyway. You draft two tight ends pretty high, you figure one will work out.
Now let's watch Guter do that next year at safety."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
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I don't know. I thought the Carrington pick was an absolute steal in the 7th this year.Originally posted by bobblehead View PostThis thread seems to be more popular than the "didn't like" thread so I'll consolidate.
Things I didn't like. I'm not nearly as excited about the later rounds as I was last year. I loved the Tom and Enagbare picks from the jump. I also think Walker and Ford in the 7th were great value. This years later picks didn't excite me at all, but I could see several being contributors without any of them being genuine starters.
That being said we had the advantage of picking early in the first 3 rounds and it paid off. LVN is the real deal. If he improves off his awesome bull rush the sky is the limit. Kraft was an absolute steal in the 3rd. Probably the best value of any pick we made. Musgrave is probably a late first in a lot of drafts. We capitalized big time on the TE depth in this draft. Reed I'm not high on. I just don't see his skill set translating. Slot return guys who are somewhat smallish probably have as high of a 1st/2nd round bust rate as any position in the game. I get why they traded back 2x though because no one in that area was exciting. I feel like Gutes is trying to force someone into that gadget role even if the right guy isn't available.
Overall I'm not disappointed with the picks. Its just that only the top 3 of 4 really make me think they will be long term starters.
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Why did you like that pick? I just read about the kid, and it seems he is better at playing man - and of course Joe Barely plays mostly zone.
A coaching mentor from years ago told me that a good coach adapts his system to his players' strengths. But that was high school basketball, way back when, when high school teams (except for schools like Dunbar and DeMatha in Maryland, where I coached) couldn't recruit players, so you had what you had.
But when you are an NFL team and have a coach and system in place, you can draft guys that will flourish in that system. So I'm not sure how Carrington Valentine fits into that."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
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I think every pick in the 1st 5 rounds looks the part. Carlson has a big leg, but is a big question mark at this point. Valentine looks like a potential 7th round steal. The other 7th rounders haven't had enough chances yet to really evaluate them.Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View PostIs it just me or is this draft class looking supremely good from this very early angle?I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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