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  • #91
    Originally posted by run pMc View Post
    Agree. They won't keep 4. Your RB3 is mostly a ST guy and Wilson hasn't taken many ST snaps in camp. Not sure how he would make it as RB4. There's not many times you'll sit both Jones and Dillon, there aren't snaps for a RB4, especially with depth needs elsewhere and Bisaccia's penchant for using safeties on ST. If (for example) Dillon gets hurt they can elevate someone off the PS.

    I think the WRs are Watson, Doubs, Reed, Toure, Wicks and one of Heath/Dubose. I'd be surprised if they only kept 5 WRs but I don't know that they'll keep 7. It's kind of a fringe/end of roster thing, and again Bisaccia uses more defensive players on ST. They aren't cutting Wicks. He's a R5 pick who -- when healthy -- has flashed big play abililty at times. He also got tossed into the lineup with the 1's for a few snaps as soon as he came back from the concussion. They clearly like him. I think it's a coin flip between Heath and Dubose, but I'd probably take Heath and try to get Dubose on the PS. I think there's more tape and buzz around Heath and if cut would get more interest from other teams.
    This seems like an accurate analysis of both positions. Given Bisaccia's penchant for using safeties on ST, Wilson might get the axe in hopes he can land on the PS, while Patrick Taylor gets the #3 job (his special teams value) and Savage and Ford, with Leavitt and some combination of Owens, Moore or maybe Johnson (though he may be a candidate for that "Surprise! He's suffered a season-ending injury!" designation that happens to a guy or two every year).

    Seems to me that they could keep six DL (including Ford), six edge guys, four inside linebackers, five corners, and five safeties. That's twenty-six dudes. A punter and kicker - two more. Then Two QB's, three RB's, nine offensive linemen, three TE's, and six WR's. that's fifty-one guys. That gives you two positions you can add to. An extra offensive lineman? One more WR? Who knows?
    "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

    KYPack

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    • #92
      A lot of people think the Packers will go "run first". Even more people, it seems, WANT more running/less passing. As good as Aaron Jones is, he's not huge, not super sturdy. Even Dillon - who ain't the kind of RB I prefer - seems to get a few nagging injuries. IMO, we should have a rotation - bring in fresh Patrick Taylor and Emanuel Wilson, both of whom have shown they can run with NFL quality. Keep Jones healthy, Dillon too (although him I don't care so much about).

      As I've explained at least twice now, it's EASY to keep 4 RBs and 6 WRs and 3 TEs and 9 O Linemen, and still have plenty - like 27 spots - for the D side, way more than probably would be needed. Hopefully, IMO probably, LaFleur, Gutekunst, etc. will see it this way. I wouldn't even rule out 5 RBs on the 53.
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      • #93
        Originally posted by Fritz View Post
        This seems like an accurate analysis of both positions. Given Bisaccia's penchant for using safeties on ST, Wilson might get the axe in hopes he can land on the PS, while Patrick Taylor gets the #3 job (his special teams value) and Savage and Ford, with Leavitt and some combination of Owens, Moore or maybe Johnson (though he may be a candidate for that "Surprise! He's suffered a season-ending injury!" designation that happens to a guy or two every year).

        Seems to me that they could keep six DL (including Ford), six edge guys, four inside linebackers, five corners, and five safeties. That's twenty-six dudes. A punter and kicker - two more. Then Two QB's, three RB's, nine offensive linemen, three TE's, and six WR's. that's fifty-one guys. That gives you two positions you can add to. An extra offensive lineman? One more WR? Who knows?
        Don't forget about a long snapper.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
          They won't keep 4 RB's because they have no no need for 4 and they never do. Last year they only kept 2. They'll likely keep 3 with Wilson and Goodson on PS.
          While what you're saying makes sense, remember that the league trend is to really prefer backs on rookie/budget deals. If Wilson displays he's a halfway decent pass protector, and has a good game today against the Seahawks, he could easily get picked up.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by SudsMcBucky View Post
            Don't forget about a long snapper.
            Ah, good catch.
            "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

            KYPack

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            • #96
              3 K,P,LS, 2 QBs, 4 RBs, 6 WRs, 3 TEs including DeGuara, 9 O Line, that adds up to 27.

              That leaves 26 for D. The breakdown somebody posted above seems about right - 6 D Line, 6 Edge (that's a LOT of edge rushers), 4 ILB, 5 Corners, 5 Safetys. Maybe one less edge, one more DB.

              The point is, there are very few or no tough choices to make. We can and should EASILY be able to keep 4 RBs and 6 WRs.
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              • #97
                I heard Heath has gotten time with the 1's now. I think he makes the roster. He's played too well all offseason

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by run pMc View Post
                  I heard Heath has gotten time with the 1's now. I think he makes the roster. He's played too well all offseason
                  He started in place of Doubs today which probably means he's made the team.
                  I can't run no more
                  With that lawless crowd
                  While the killers in high places
                  Say their prayers out loud
                  But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                  A thundercloud
                  They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                  • #99
                    I would think so. Wicks to IR? Dubose to PS?
                    "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                    KYPack

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                    • What happened to Wicks? I haven't seen anything about an injury.
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                      • Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                        What happened to Wicks? I haven't seen anything about an injury.
                        I think he has a hamstring injury.
                        I can't run no more
                        With that lawless crowd
                        While the killers in high places
                        Say their prayers out loud
                        But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                        A thundercloud
                        They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                        • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                          I think he has a hamstring injury.
                          Yep. First he missed time with a concussion, now both he and Doubs have hamstring injuries.

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                          • Did Dubose flash anything last night? I could see the team shelving Wicks for the season if they think Heath and Dubose got the rookie WR/special teams thing covered.
                            "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                            KYPack

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                            • Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                              Did Dubose flash anything last night? I could see the team shelving Wicks for the season if they think Heath and Dubose got the rookie WR/special teams thing covered.
                              I don't think they want to shelve Wicks for the entire season. I think they keep him and maybe put him on IR after the season starts so he can be brought back. With Wicks and Doubs having hamstring injuries, they might keep all 7 initially.
                              I can't run no more
                              With that lawless crowd
                              While the killers in high places
                              Say their prayers out loud
                              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                              A thundercloud
                              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                              • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                                I don't think they want to shelve Wicks for the entire season. I think they keep him and maybe put him on IR after the season starts so he can be brought back. With Wicks and Doubs having hamstring injuries, they might keep all 7 initially.
                                Yeah I don't think they want Wicks to miss the season and what that means for his development. He'll make the 53 but they could IR him after cutdowns and bring him back. If they IR him before cutdown to 53 he's done for the year. They could also waive him injured and settle with him, but there's no way you're doing that with a R5 pick who has shown some potential when he's been healthy enough to play.

                                I like Dubose, but I think he's more likely to be on the PS than the 53. Has shown some promise but was too far behind from missing so much time. Jadakis Bonds also developed a lot from OTAs to now; he might make the PS too. I expect them to stash 2 RBs and 2 WRs on the PS.

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