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  • #31
    Love is sounding better as he gets reps in practice, I still think he is an XFL QB but I REALLY hope Im wrong.
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    • #32
      Sounds like they were working on slants and seam routs today. Rodgers was not big on slants, so that may be a good change with Love. Being able to attack the seam will be a good change.
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      • #33
        Originally posted by MadScientist View Post
        Sounds like they were working on slants and seam routs today. Rodgers was not big on slants, so that may be a good change with Love. Being able to attack the seam will be a good change.
        We saw what happens when Love hits Watson in stride on a slant route vs. Philly. GB has some young fast WRs and slants are generally quick throws so it's not a bad idea.
        Apparently Musgrave looks good running routes in shorts. shocker. Still, he should be at least as good as Tonyan was last year, with the benefit of 4 years of contract under GB's control.

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        • #34
          Rodgers threw less over the middle on average than most QBs. I expect that to change, which will likely be part of the reason we'll see more interceptions. Hopefully, it's countered by more sustained drives.

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          • #35
            A rare acorn of truth from you, sharpe. I hope posting it doesn't mean you're happy about it. Myself, I hope, although don't necessarily expect that Love soaked up enough of Rodgers way of playing that he doesn't play down to that expectation - throwing picks over the middle, etc.
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            • #36
              Tex, you imply that I lie. Disagreeing with you is not lying. More name calling is not improving your arguments..

              Every QB has to throw over the middle, so it's a matter of degree. Rodgers had better numbers when he did throw over the middle, but still favored the outside more than most QBs. This suggests he was choosing the less optimal option.

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              • #37
                More throws into the MOF, more pre-snap motion, 12 personnel where both are a receiving threat, running RPOs differently, less timeouts burned. Offense will be similar on surface but I think have a lot more wrinkles.
                This will actually be a chance to find out how good of a coach MLF really is.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by run pMc View Post
                  More throws into the MOF, more pre-snap motion, 12 personnel where both are a receiving threat, running RPOs differently, less timeouts burned. Offense will be similar on surface but I think have a lot more wrinkles.
                  This will actually be a chance to find out how good of a coach MLF really is.
                  I actually think the offense will look a lot different on the surface. Rodgers didn't like a lot of pre snap movement, instead relying on his experience to call audibles. I expect a lot more motion and different formations to disguise a more basic set of plays.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by sharpe1027 View Post
                    Tex, you imply that I lie. Disagreeing with you is not lying. More name calling is not improving your arguments..

                    Every QB has to throw over the middle, so it's a matter of degree. Rodgers had better numbers when he did throw over the middle, but still favored the outside more than most QBs. This suggests he was choosing the less optimal option.
                    No, I don't think you lie so much as you are just bonehead stupid. As I said, you got it right in this rare case. It wasn't really clear, though, whether you were FOR or AGAINST throwing over the middle more and getting more interceptions.

                    Mad Scientist and whoever: it's too early to say for sure, but I think there will be a lot of the same things Rodgers did with Love, even the read and react change at the line stuff. Assuming he's smart, which it seems like they think he is, I'm pretty sure they will encourage that because it's smart football.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                      Saw an article about Samari Toure's rebuilt body and newfound steely reserve, but the most interesting part was just a note at the end that last season his teammates called him "Captain Casual."

                      Ouch.


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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                        No, I don't think you lie so much as you are just bonehead stupid. As I said, you got it right in this rare case. It wasn't really clear, though, whether you were FOR or AGAINST throwing over the middle more and getting more interceptions.

                        Mad Scientist and whoever: it's too early to say for sure, but I think there will be a lot of the same things Rodgers did with Love, even the read and react change at the line stuff. Assuming he's smart, which it seems like they think he is, I'm pretty sure they will encourage that because it's smart football.
                        I'm for whatever gets the best results. There's no sane person that thinks you can completely ignore the middle of the field. They question is when and how you do so

                        Rodgers threw the ball in the middle of the field and had corresponding interceptions.He must agree with me

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                        • #42
                          You're saying Rodgers "completely ignored" the middle of the field? Sheeesh. He was just smart about not throwing into traffic, and HOPEFULLY Love will have learned to have that smartness too. Then it somes down to accuracy. HOPEFULLY (but not probably) Love has accuracy close to Rodgers'.
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                            You're saying Rodgers "completely ignored" the middle of the field? Sheeesh. He was just smart about not throwing into traffic, and HOPEFULLY Love will have learned to have that smartness too. Then it somes down to accuracy. HOPEFULLY (but not probably) Love has accuracy close to Rodgers'.
                            No. I said he used the middle of the field. Reading comprehension fail

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                            • #44
                              JFC he used the MOF, just not as much as most QBs.
                              Ever use the internet to actually fact check, or are you too lazy to do anything except make false statements and then dig your heels on them after they're disproved?

                              Even if you don't like PFF or SIS, NFL Next Gen Stats is fairly easy and most of it is free, for crying out loud. Check this out:
                              NFL’s Next Gen Stats captures real time location data, speed and acceleration for every player, every play on every inch of the field. Discover Next Gen Stats News, Charts, and Statistics.


                              You can look at the passing charts and see that he mostly threw outside the numbers. Even though he wasn't bad at throwing into MOF, he chose not to. Weird considering those are usually easier throws and where you're going to have mesh concepts, slants, crossers, etc.
                              You can pull up another QB and compare their charts. Most use the MOF more.

                              Interestingly, some people consider the DAL game their best game last year, and yet Rodgers only threw 20 passes.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by run pMc View Post
                                JFC he used the MOF, just not as much as most QBs.
                                Ever use the internet to actually fact check, or are you too lazy to do anything except make false statements and then dig your heels on them after they're disproved?

                                Even if you don't like PFF or SIS, NFL Next Gen Stats is fairly easy and most of it is free, for crying out loud. Check this out:
                                NFL’s Next Gen Stats captures real time location data, speed and acceleration for every player, every play on every inch of the field. Discover Next Gen Stats News, Charts, and Statistics.


                                You can look at the passing charts and see that he mostly threw outside the numbers. Even though he wasn't bad at throwing into MOF, he chose not to. Weird considering those are usually easier throws and where you're going to have mesh concepts, slants, crossers, etc.
                                You can pull up another QB and compare their charts. Most use the MOF more.

                                Interestingly, some people consider the DAL game their best game last year, and yet Rodgers only threw 20 passes.
                                He sure went out with a bang.

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