DAVID BACKTIARI----MORE DRAMA------IS IT REAL ????

[RashanGary]

There's a lot of speculation about insane things here. Is there any reason to think he didn't want to play on turf, or that he's only going to play every other game, or any of the other wild possibilities here? Maybe he really just tweaked it. Who knows. I feel like there is a lot of assuming the worst in folks in here. Bak is an all-world .001% guy in the general population aka a very impressive person in all facets of life. I highly doubt he would mail it in.

Facts in this situation:

Bakh has a knee that kept him out for a whole season and then when he tried to come back a year later was down again until the start of the next season (18 months post injury)

Even after 18 months he was still having issues practicing and consistently playing on the knee

Even now, 2.5 years since the injury, he is having flare ups on the knee that prevent him from practicing and sometimes playing




Bakh has spent the last several years panning for change in the NFLs surfaces, calling for grass fields across the board. He claims synthetic surfaces cause injury.




What types of things are far fetched exaggerations or assumptions in this thread?

[bobblehead]

There's a lot of speculation about insane things here. Is there any reason to think he didn't want to play on turf, or that he's only going to play every other game, or any of the other wild possibilities here? Maybe he really just tweaked it. Who knows. I feel like there is a lot of assuming the worst in folks in here. Bak is an all-world .001% guy in the general population aka a very impressive person in all facets of life. I highly doubt he would mail it in.

Seriously? Other than the fact he has been screaming it at the top of his lungs for 2 years, no....there is nothing else to suggest it.

[call_me_ishmael]

But he played 2 out of 3 games on turf last year? Not liking something and thinking it's wrong is quite different than not showing up and doing your job. Historically, he has played on turf despite not liking it.

[Bretsky]

There's a lot of speculation about insane things here. Is there any reason to think he didn't want to play on turf, or that he's only going to play every other game, or any of the other wild possibilities here? Maybe he really just tweaked it. Who knows. I feel like there is a lot of assuming the worst in folks in here. Bak is an all-world .001% guy in the general population aka a very impressive person in all facets of life. I highly doubt he would mail it in.

I think you are putting your head in the sand and closing your eyes

[bobblehead]

But he played 2 out of 3 games on turf last year? Not liking something and thinking it's wrong is quite different than not showing up and doing your job. Historically, he has played on turf despite not liking it.

If I were guessing this was his protest to his buddy Rodgers blowing his Achilles on turf last monday. If Rodgers didn't get hurt I suspect he would have played. I have no direct evidence of this, just human nature, and the fact he was livid and outspoken after Rodgers went down.

[Fosco33]

If I were guessing this was his protest to his buddy Rodgers blowing his Achilles on turf last monday. If Rodgers didn't get hurt I suspect he would have played. I have no direct evidence of this, just human nature, and the fact he was livid and outspoken after Rodgers went down.

That’s my worry. Why not rain/snow/Thur or any other non football injury but increased odds of injury as ‘hold out’.

[texaspackerbacker]

It's well known that I'm far from Bakhtiari's biggest fan, but there's a whole lot of assuming facts not in evidence going on in here.

[SudsMcBucky]

It's well known that I'm far from Bakhtiari's biggest fan, but there's a whole lot of assuming facts not in evidence going on in here.

Meh, we're all just a bunch of part time keyboard warriors on some random message board. We don't work for legitimate new outlets like TMZ.

[run pMc]

I don't think it's a protest or holdout. Bakhtiari isn't a malingerer and by all accounts has bought into being in GB and working hard. Nothing he has said indicates otherwise either. His vendetta vs. turf goes back much earlier than this year, he's just more vocal about it.

I think his knee doesn't react well to playing on turf, and it's also sore. They put him on the inactive list for the ATL for both reasons, and that's probably it.
Hopefully he can play vs. NO for the home opener.

I wouldn't read too much into it beyond that. Not yet anyway.

[Fritz]

I don't think it's a protest or holdout. Bakhtiari isn't a malingerer and by all accounts has bought into being in GB and working hard. Nothing he has said indicates otherwise either. His vendetta vs. turf goes back much earlier than this year, he's just more vocal about it.

I think his knee doesn't react well to playing on turf, and it's also sore. They put him on the inactive list for the ATL for both reasons, and that's probably it.
Hopefully he can play vs. NO for the home opener.

I wouldn't read too much into it beyond that. Not yet anyway.

He's going to be struggling all year to get onto the field. Probably play a game, sit one or two out, play a game. His knee just is never going to allow him to play full-time all-the-time football any more.

I'm going to guess he'll play in the home opener. But after that, he'll likely miss.

So Rasheed Walker and Yosh Nijman better be ready for on-again/off-again playing time. Nijman can make himself some coin if he plays well.

[call_me_ishmael]

I think you are putting your head in the sand and closing your eyes

Maybe, but is one game enough data to go off of yet? I really don't think so. People are fabricating a pattern that doesn't exist at this point. The reality is we don't know. Once there's a pattern, then we have something to go off one. A single game is not a pattern.

[run pMc]

He's going to be struggling all year to get onto the field. Probably play a game, sit one or two out, play a game. His knee just is never going to allow him to play full-time all-the-time football any more.

I'm going to guess he'll play in the home opener. But after that, he'll likely miss.

So Rasheed Walker and Yosh Nijman better be ready for on-again/off-again playing time. Nijman can make himself some coin if he plays well.

Agree with this -- he'll continue to struggle to be healthy enough to play, and in the offseason Gute will decide to cut bait on him for the cap space.
It's not smart to carry $40M (or whatever) on the cap for a LT that can't regularly play, even if he's elite. IIRC they'll eat 20M and gain about as much by releasing him this offseason, and that's what I expect them to do. Put it this way: would you rather keep Bakh or Aaron Jones? You can cut one to keep the other.

As much as I'd like to say "trade him", I don't think anyone would take Bakhtiari - he's damaged goods and might not even pass a physical (thereby voiding the trade). Maybe you get a conditional R7 for him, but... meh. He's been a great player for them, and his injury ruined his career and possibly prevented a SB run in 2020, but I think this is his last year in GB.

[texaspackerbacker]

So Rasheed Walker and Yosh Nijman better be ready for on-again/off-again playing time. Nijman can make himself some coin if he plays well.

I'm wondering why they played Walker ahead of Yosh. Yosh did all right last season, and Walker definitely did not.

[call_me_ishmael]

https://twitter.com/mattschneidman/status/1704583662153429225?t=ShnIpCaIEfy3qDBAxN9e0A&s=19

Also, he's not expected to play this weekend at home.

[run pMc]

I'm wondering why they played Walker ahead of Yosh. Yosh did all right last season, and Walker definitely did not.

Because he's younger, cheaper, and plays to the whistle. Also, he's developing nicely to where he's a fringe starter at OT already. I think they know what Njiman is and he's hit his ceiling, whereas Walker is still getting better. This team is all about developing young talent and upside right now.

Njiman is rumored to be a little softspoken and not as nasty, and I think the coaches were hoping to see more fire out of him with competition vs. Tom and others. He's a luxury to have, but with Bakhtiari's knee issues probably worth it. For now.