DAVID BACKTIARI----MORE DRAMA------IS IT REAL ????

[NewsBruin]

The one bit of hope I hold out if this is only a cartilage issue* is that a lot of older pro athletes are doing borderline-voodoo stuff to restore knee cushioning. HLA injections, platelet-rich plasma, growth hormone treatments all over the world at places that don't ask a lot of questions. I think about pro wrestlers The Undertaker and Rey Mysterio, who added five years or more onto their careers after being considered completely shot.

If he loves, loves football and decides that he's going to have chronic pain regardless and wants to play one more season for the love of the game (and ~$20 million in salary and roster bonus), he's got enough time to go to get the weirdness done and be back for 2024.

* Which is easy, because it's not my knee.

[NewsBruin]

And if he wanted to play for someone else, we'd have that familiar Favre/Rodgers drama of "GB owns the rights to your contract, even if you retire," so we'd decide if it's worth keeping him for $20M or getting some draft/player comp for him.

[bobblehead]

they also converted $15M of his salary to bonus this year, so he's been paid that already.

There is NO benefit to the cap if you cut him this year. The offseason is a different story, when he counts $40M against the cap but is due for about another $19M. They can get about $21M cap savings cutting him then.

Nobody is going to trade for him. Teams aren't going to give up a draft pick for a guy who is (at best) week-to-week the entire season, and he might not pass a physical anyway.

Agree. Not sure if teams wouldn't make an offer in August or not, but he is done as a packer and we won't get anything for him at this point. He will be cut. I doubt he ever plays another snap. If he does, it won't be for us.

[QBME]

Agree. Not sure if teams wouldn't make an offer in August or not, but he is done as a packer and we won't get anything for him at this point. He will be cut. I doubt he ever plays another snap. If he does, it won't be for us.

He’s done with football for sure.
He’s 32 years old and just had his first child.
He’s a California boy and can afford to go home.
He’s a class act and will ride off into the sunset with his head held high.

[Fritz]

He’s done with football for sure.
He’s 32 years old and just had his first child.
He’s a California boy and can afford to go home.
He’s a class act and will ride off into the sunset with his head held high.

Ah, but he loves the game. He loves, loves, loves playing football.

I think he's going to try once more. Will it succeed? Who knows - probably not - but I think he's going to try.

[Joemailman]

Ah, but he loves the game. He loves, loves, loves playing football.

I think he's going to try once more. Will it succeed? Who knows - probably not - but I think he's going to try.

Bakhtiari said today his plan is to play in 2024. Acknowledges he doesn't know if it will be with the Packers. It's not his ACL. It's a cartilage issue. He spent 35 minutes today talking to reporters. https://www.packers.com/video/david-...ing-his-season

[RashanGary]

He’s made about 90+ million dollars. I imagine he has at least 30 million in the bank.

The best he can hope for is a minimum contract with big incentives for all pro, pro bowl. Moderate incentives for playing time. More than likely he’d make 2 to 6 million a year for 3 years. If his knee ever works.

He’s been a great player. There’s a tiny chance he could be really good for 5 more years. Tackles have done that. He says he has a lot of cartilage. So there’s still a chance he could really play. For a while.

He’s going to try. We’ll see what happens.

[RashanGary]

Ken Ingalls on Twitter said Bakhs whole salary will be paid next year even if they cut him due to injury grievance. That’s assuming his knee is bad.

There is a real possibility he gets cut and counts 40M because of the knee.

[RashanGary]

Ken Ingalls is like 100% right on cap situations 100% of the time.

[Fritz]

Ken Ingalls on Twitter said Bakhs whole salary will be paid next year even if they cut him due to injury grievance. That’s assuming his knee is bad.

There is a real possibility he gets cut and counts 40M because of the knee.

If this is so, then of course it makes sense to just keep him. If in fact he can come back and play, you might as well have it be for the Packers. If it doesn't work out, well, apparently they've got to pay him any way.

[ThunderDan]

Ken Ingalls on Twitter said Bakhs whole salary will be paid next year even if they cut him due to injury grievance. That’s assuming his knee is bad.

There is a real possibility he gets cut and counts 40M because of the knee.

We would have to pay him but there would be salary cap reduction.

Cash paid to player does not correlate to salary cap hit unless there was no signing bonus or guaranteed money in the contract.

[ThunderDan]

If this is so, then of course it makes sense to just keep him. If in fact he can come back and play, you might as well have it be for the Packers. If it doesn't work out, well, apparently they've got to pay him any way.

The Packers will cut him and if interested resign him. They could signed him for 10M in 2024 and have a lower cap hit than if he stayed on his current contract. They would have to pay out 10M more in cash but see a reduction in salary cap.

[ThunderDan]

Bach’s current contract is 5 years $102M.

Cap hit per year
20 - 16.2 M
21 - 10.9 M
22 - 13.8 M
23 - 21.3 M
24 - 40.6 M

This is what happens to contracts when you “cook” the cap. 21 and 22 look good but 24 is a complete dead weight.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Bach’s current contract is 5 years $102M.

Cap hit per year
20 - 16.2 M
21 - 10.9 M
22 - 13.8 M
23 - 21.3 M
24 - 40.6 M

This is what happens to contracts when you “cook” the cap. 21 and 22 look good but 24 is a complete dead weight.

Moral of the story: it ain’t ever wise to overpay a Yokozuna. See the contracts of Albert Haynesworth, Cletidus Clark and the Iranian Stallion (Bak) for examples.

(Aside: Where the fuck was Clark when the Pussies of Detroit were running the rock up and down the A and B gaps where Clark supposedly roam? Oh right, he was seen running to the bank to deposit his fat check.)

Bak ain’t counting $40 M against the Packers cap in 24. Either the Packers will cook the cap again and lower the number, or more likely, they’ll terminate the contract and eat up “only” 19M in “dead” cap, which has already been accounted for, so it ain’t a big deal. The Packers can always cook the cap further if they need that 19M so baldy to sign, say, Mike Evens.

[bobblehead]

We would have to pay him but there would be salary cap reduction.

Cash paid to player does not correlate to salary cap hit unless there was no signing bonus or guaranteed money in the contract.

Eventually the cash correlates. I think Bak has a $19 base this year and the other 21 is kicked forward from previous years that was paid. Thus they can cut him, and save the base, but the money that is unaccounted for so far will count at that point.

If I understand it (and maybe I don't).

Player has bases of 5,5,7,9 Million but gets a 20 million bonus he will count 10,10,12,14. If you cut him after year 3 the 5 that is unaccounted for but has been paid will count anyway. In baks case he had a signing bonus, but then they guaranteed the base several of the years, thus turning it into bonus effectively. So each time they did, it carried forward and was spread out. Thats how you end up with $21 million counting against the cap that he won't be paid (He was already paid it previously).