Packers vs. Raiders Discussion Thread

[Fritz]

I hope all three of Runyan, Jenkins and Tom can go. Keeping Newman on the bench will be important.
Rudy Ford is a little better than Owens.

I guess this is good timing for them to have a bye after LV

Yes, usually I don't the earlier byes, but in this case it might be good for a young team to catch its collective breath and be able to heal.

Like many of us, I will be interested to see what combination of guys trots out to the offensive line positions. Lots of possibilities there.

Jonathan Owens already has, I think, at least two special teams penalties this season. It'll be interesting to see how much drop-off there will be from Rudy.

And boy, hasn't Jones's hamstring just lingered and lingered, for a guy who said he barely tweaked it? I'd sure like to see MLF get Jones involved early and often.

[Sparkey]

I hope all three of Runyan, Jenkins and Tom can go. Keeping Newman on the bench will be important.
Rudy Ford is a little better than Owens.

I guess this is good timing for them to have a bye after LV

Owens would be better in run support.

[Joemailman]

Tom Silverstein
@TomSilverstein

#Packers G Jon Runyan and S Rudy Ford return to practice. Only two who are out are ILB De’Vondre Campbell (ankle) and S Zayne Anderson (hamstring).

[texaspackerbacker]

I think a key is returning Douglas to the status of #2 Corner - where he has shined. For some reason, last week and I think other times that the had to be top dog, he struggled. I want to see more of Valentine too.

Good if Ford can play. he was hustling all over the field. If he can't, though, I'm not sure Owens is the answer. In addition to the penalties, he seemed kinda stiff and maybe slow. I'd rather they get a little bit creative in passing situations and use one of the plethora of good Corners in deep coverage. With our D coaches, though, I doubt that happens.

I read an article that the Packers would maybe be open to trading A.J. Dillon. Good, although I doubt something like that happens during the season. I'd like to see more of an RB rotation with Dillon the 4th option after Jones, Wilson, and Taylor.

It's hard to figure how the Packers made it through a season with Newman starting and won a lot of games. I don't think he got damaged by injury, but for whatever reason, he has degenerated to playing like crap. Why? If they didn't think he could snap out of it, they probably would have cut him.

It seems like McDuffie has played good - at least as good as Campbell when he was in there. But who is the next man up if McDuffie or Quay gets hurt (or heaven forbid, kicked out hahaha)?

This is a game the Packers should win and really need to win if the season is gonna be close to as good as I think and hope. We've got a string of winnable games coming up and a strangely easy schedule in general. Let's not let any more of the games we should win get away.

[Joemailman]

Getting better.

[Fritz]

I think a key is returning Douglas to the status of #2 Corner - where he has shined. For some reason, last week and I think other times that the had to be top dog, he struggled. I want to see more of Valentine too.

Good if Ford can play. he was hustling all over the field. If he can't, though, I'm not sure Owens is the answer. In addition to the penalties, he seemed kinda stiff and maybe slow. I'd rather they get a little bit creative in passing situations and use one of the plethora of good Corners in deep coverage. With our D coaches, though, I doubt that happens.

I read an article that the Packers would maybe be open to trading A.J. Dillon. Good, although I doubt something like that happens during the season. I'd like to see more of an RB rotation with Dillon the 4th option after Jones, Wilson, and Taylor.

It's hard to figure how the Packers made it through a season with Newman starting and won a lot of games. I don't think he got damaged by injury, but for whatever reason, he has degenerated to playing like crap. Why? If they didn't think he could snap out of it, they probably would have cut him.

It seems like McDuffie has played good - at least as good as Campbell when he was in there. But who is the next man up if McDuffie or Quay gets hurt (or heaven forbid, kicked out hahaha)?

This is a game the Packers should win and really need to win if the season is gonna be close to as good as I think and hope. We've got a string of winnable games coming up and a strangely easy schedule in general. Let's not let any more of the games we should win get away.

Weirdly good post, Tex. Thoughtful. I'd agree with your comments on Douglas, and on Owens as well. And I don't know what's up with Campbell - he was so good that first season, and last season he was battling injury, but he still seems to my untrained eye to have been only a guy so far this year. The fact that Rolled Royce is still on the roster and even starting suggests we will be drafting more than one interior lineman next offseason. I could see two or three linemen, a couple of safeties, a couple of running backs.

And I'd agree too that this is one the Packers ought to win if the season is going to be even average.

Tex, when you're not calling people lily-livered assholes, or whatever it is you call them, you can actually be pretty sharp. Okay, outside of your manlove for Myers.

[texaspackerbacker]

Have I called you anything like that? I don't think so. I'm a counter puncher, and rest assured, anybody I've labeled that way showed massive symptoms of the dumbassery I've labeled them as.

Where you and I seem to disagree is you're talking about the season being "even average". I still see this team as loaded with talent, especially with Love playing so well. Take away Joe Barry's ineptitude, and there's no reason the team shouldn't be as good as just about anybody. Even with Barry, we've won a LOT of games, though, and I thoroughly expect that again. The whole league seems a little bit down this year, and the Packers schedule in particular seems conducive to having a damn good record. Losing to a team like the Raiders, though, would be a very bad sign. I don't think that's gonna happen.

[sharpe1027]

Tex, you throw out shit at people in a way that many people think your talking about them. When called out you often chickenshit out and claim you're talking about someone else without naming anyone. Man up and rely to specific posts in the future rather than ambiguous statements like "sacred cow worshipers."

[texaspackerbacker]

hahahahahahahahaha Is that what you think? That I might be talking about you? Well guess what ........ You're pretty high on the list. Is that specific enough for ya?

[RashanGary]

hahahahahahahahaha Is that what you think? That I might be talking about you? Well guess what ........ You're pretty high on the list. Is that specific enough for ya?

How in the fuck do you pick sharpe out as being on the list of dumb asses? I can’t think of one time where it’s crossed my mind that he’s an idiot. Maybe he’s talking shit to you though. I generally chuckle at the shit talk and it’s not something I really note in my mind because I shrug it off as humor. That’s got to be it.

[Fritz]

Have I called you anything like that? I don't think so. I'm a counter puncher, and rest assured, anybody I've labeled that way showed massive symptoms of the dumbassery I've labeled them as.

Where you and I seem to disagree is you're talking about the season being "even average". I still see this team as loaded with talent, especially with Love playing so well. Take away Joe Barry's ineptitude, and there's no reason the team shouldn't be as good as just about anybody. Even with Barry, we've won a LOT of games, though, and I thoroughly expect that again. The whole league seems a little bit down this year, and the Packers schedule in particular seems conducive to having a damn good record. Losing to a team like the Raiders, though, would be a very bad sign. I don't think that's gonna happen.

MLF seems to think you can "take away Joe Barry's ineptitude," but I don't think that's going to happen. And you're not going to have this young offense able to cover for that, or help that defense much at all. And you saw what that looked like last year. Average. Last year's offense was old and slow, mostly, but to the same effect.

[texaspackerbacker]

I don't think so either, but we did win 13 or 14 games a couple of years with Barry's D, bad as it was even then. We have probably better D personnel now than then, and I would argue pretty damn good on offense too, especially with Love seemingly panning out really good. With an easier schedule and maybe the whole league down a little bit, I don't see why we can't win almost that many again.

[Joemailman]

About as good as we could have hoped for.

[RashanGary]

Oh hot damn, Eric stokes questionable…. I thought the gonorrhea rotted his foot off.

[RashanGary]

Remember when women used to post here and the woman claimed that a packers cornerback (house maybe) raped her and I read the details and was like, I don’t know, this lady seems like a savvy vet. I don’t know if I’m buying this rape story. And then she was found to be a prostitute and it was a lie. The women were having conniption fits that I didn’t believe the rape story