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  • #46
    Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
    And a LOT of mushrooms are poisonous so you shouldn't eat mushrooms.
    Eventually, I will trek to Vegas. Not sure I would want to stack you at the poker tables, though. Apparently, you ain’t a fungus.

    Never draft a Yokozuna in the 1st round. In the first, give me a hotshot QB, a shutdown corner, a diva wideout, a hip hop safety, a poetic edge rusher or an Urlacher. The fats (Yokozuna offensive linemen and defensive linemen) are just not playmakers.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by sharpe1027 View Post
      More hits happen in the early rounds than in the mid or late rounds, which is the whole point.
      Sure, it’s nice to have a D’Brickashaw Ferguson protecting the QB’s blindside. But the kung fu (skill) between a Ferguson and a, say, Marshall Newhouse ain’t as material as that of a Butte and a Jon Kitna.

      Premium picks should be used on playmakers like the Claymaker and J-Alex, not Elgton Jenkins, Kenny Clark and Derrick Sherods. Sure, there are hits and busts at every position. But replace Clark with, say, Cletudus Hunt, and the production would be extremely similar.

      Try replacing the Claymaker with Frank Zombo. The difference in kung fu is significant. Therefore, gotta use premium picks on finesse playmakers, not fat Yokozunas.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear View Post
        Sure, it’s nice to have a D’Brickashaw Ferguson protecting the QB’s blindside. But the kung fu (skill) between a Ferguson and a, say, Marshall Newhouse ain’t as material as that of a Butte and a Jon Kitna.

        Premium picks should be used on playmakers like the Claymaker and J-Alex, not Elgton Jenkins, Kenny Clark and Derrick Sherods. Sure, there are hits and busts at every position. But replace Clark with, say, Cletudus Hunt, and the production would be extremely similar.

        Try replacing the Claymaker with Frank Zombo. The difference in kung fu is significant. Therefore, gotta use premium picks on finesse playmakers, not fat Yokozunas.
        I'm not saying you only pick offensive lineman. I'm just saying you don't take them off the table completely. Hard and fast rules like that aren't wise. You take a look at the options available and make the best decision.

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        • #49
          Trenches first.
          Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by sharpe1027 View Post
            More hits happen in the early rounds than in the mid or late rounds, which is the whole point.
            Yes, I was mocking Tex. I know, its like picking on the fat kid. Too easy and not nice.
            The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear View Post
              Sure, it’s nice to have a D’Brickashaw Ferguson protecting the QB’s blindside. But the kung fu (skill) between a Ferguson and a, say, Marshall Newhouse ain’t as material as that of a Butte and a Jon Kitna.

              Premium picks should be used on playmakers like the Claymaker and J-Alex, not Elgton Jenkins, Kenny Clark and Derrick Sherods. Sure, there are hits and busts at every position. But replace Clark with, say, Cletudus Hunt, and the production would be extremely similar.

              Try replacing the Claymaker with Frank Zombo. The difference in kung fu is significant. Therefore, gotta use premium picks on finesse playmakers, not fat Yokozunas.
              One of your better posts, APB. It’s basically what I’ve said all along - O Line tends to be less important than a lot of other positions.

              Yeah right to the idea that you see plenty of busts and disappointments in other positions drafted early too, but I’m fairly sure the most by a wide margin are O linemen.
              What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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              • #52
                Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                One of your better posts, APB. It’s basically what I’ve said all along - O Line tends to be less important than a lot of other positions.

                Yeah right to the idea that you see plenty of busts and disappointments in other positions drafted early too, but I’m fairly sure the most by a wide margin are O linemen.
                I bet DL and QBs bust more often.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by sharpe1027 View Post
                  I bet DL and QBs bust more often.
                  I found one article which was a bit dated (2015) on the subject. The 4 positions with the most 1st round busts were QB, RB, WR and DL. All the OL positions were in the lower half of bust percentage.
                  I can't run no more
                  With that lawless crowd
                  While the killers in high places
                  Say their prayers out loud
                  But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                  A thundercloud
                  They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                    I found one article which was a bit dated (2015) on the subject. The 4 positions with the most 1st round busts were QB, RB, WR and DL. All the OL positions were in the lower half of bust percentage.
                    The move is clear then. Trade all your 1sts and 2nds and load up on the 3rd round....oops, that won't work for our GM.
                    The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                      The move is clear then. Trade all your 1sts and 2nds and load up on the 3rd round....oops, that won't work for our GM.
                      We could own the 4th.
                      I can't run no more
                      With that lawless crowd
                      While the killers in high places
                      Say their prayers out loud
                      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                      A thundercloud
                      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                        The move is clear then. Trade all your 1sts and 2nds and load up on the 3rd round....oops, that won't work for our GM.
                        More busts in the 3rd round than in the 1st and 2nd.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                          We could own the 4th.
                          Yes, the 7 iron of the draft. Mr. 7 wiggle. The home of Bak, Tom, Doubs, Jamal Williams, JC Tretter, Mike Daniels, TJ Lang, Josh Sitton and Brady Poppinga.

                          If we own the 4th we own the Lombardi Cup!!
                          The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                          • #58
                            I don’t know x’s from o’s, but I read somewhere, on a couple of occasions that building a team, no matter what the sport, you build from the middle out. Made a bunch of sense to me.
                            Baseball:
                            Pitchers (obviously)
                            Catcher
                            Short stop
                            Second base
                            Center field
                            Basketball:
                            Center
                            Point guard
                            Power forward
                            Football:
                            Quarterback (obviously)
                            Center
                            Main back
                            Middle linebacker (back in the day)
                            Strong Safety

                            And build out from there

                            I’m showing my age

                            Speaking of which, whatever happened to Oldbutnotdeadyet?

                            Sheesh, even Patler checked in recently

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                            • #59
                              I was just looking up all time NBA ppg leaders and saw Jordan at the top. At 6’6” 210 with his movement skills, I wonder what kind of receiver he would have been. Shit, I imagine he’d be the best athlete at the position of all time. He claims he ran a 4.3 40. Yeah, he’d be the goat for sure. I guess without shoes he’s 6’5”, so that 210 is in the ideal range for build.
                              Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                              • #60
                                Another kind of random stat…. Since it’s not draft season, this is always off topic….. Damian Lillard is the 11th highest career ppg player in NBA history. Teaming with Giannis is freaking sick.
                                Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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