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Originally posted by RashanGary View PostDillon is awful. He’s a career backup. Get him for 3M and I’m cool. Might as well keep Jones around. He’s not slowing down. He’s always been injury prone. But if you can get him at a decent price, keep him.
When you look at some of the 2nd round RB as of late....and then think....we got Dillon...yikesTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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I generally agree with you here, however, Jimmy himself acknowledges that his chart doesn't apply to franchise QBs. If you believe in the one you can get in position to get and you don't believe in Love you pay up.Originally posted by Travisb72 View PostTo be in a position to get either of the two big qb’s, Green Bay currently would need to trade up to #1. At #2 and also with a need at qb, sit the bears. And they aren’t trading that to GB.
And if we go by last years car/chi trade, it’s
Going to cost a kings ransom to get to #1. I imagine it would cost at least this years 1, 2 and next years 1 to move to #1. It’s a ripoff according to jimmy Johnson’s value chart, but Arizona will have a few suitors to get into position for a chance at 1 of the 2 franchise qbs.
I like the idea of sitting put and getting Alt or Fashanu(even though Fashanu was destroyed by Buckeye Tuimoloau a couple weeks ago.)
That doesn’t leave enough capital to move up with the “excess picks” to get into the 15 range for another Tackle. Also, there are too many holes on this team to be giving up all that draft capital .
However I still think they can win with JLove and I want to stay put as well. I should have been clear about trading up after that. I'm thinking more like packaging our 2nd with jets 2nd and maybe a 3rd to move up if a guy you have a high grade on slips to the early 20's where you may be able to get. Or they can get over the Yosh hate and lock him up to play RT and move Tom to C. Then the OL looks a world better.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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There are always good RBs available that can run behind good blocking.Originally posted by red View Postwe need to pick up a RB somewhere
jones isn't going to stick around if he's only getting 5 carries a game
and dillon sucks 90% of the timeThe only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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When this season is over, I don’t think they are going to have to trade up much if any. They just sent the tank signal out by trading their best CB. They might even jump the bears who made a trade to immediately get better.Originally posted by bobblehead View PostI generally agree with you here, however, Jimmy himself acknowledges that his chart doesn't apply to franchise QBs. If you believe in the one you can get in position to get and you don't believe in Love you pay up.
However I still think they can win with JLove and I want to stay put as well. I should have been clear about trading up after that. I'm thinking more like packaging our 2nd with jets 2nd and maybe a 3rd to move up if a guy you have a high grade on slips to the early 20's where you may be able to get. Or they can get over the Yosh hate and lock him up to play RT and move Tom to C. Then the OL looks a world better.
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I agree there will be suitors trying to get up to top 2 or 3 to pick a QB, and it's likely to cost more than what CAR paid for Young. Caleb Williams and Drake Maye are both considered better prospects than Bryce Young or CJ Stroud.
The other thing I've heard kicked around is, with the draft coming to GB in 2025, there's almost no way they want to trade away a future R1 pick in 2025 to try and move up. I could see Murphy discouraging a trade, but it could happen I suppose. If they fall to #4 in draft order they might try to leapfrog a team, but that's going to cost picks that Gute covets.
I think that unless the wheels absolutely fall off, they want to give Love more time with this young offense, and MLF a shot at coaching them. If they still stink next year they will clean house and have a high draft pick to lure fans to GB for the draft. At a minimum, I think they will look at who's around at QB in R2 to push Love as a developmental guy, although I'm not a fan of the QB's Gute seems to like (Jordan Love, Drew Lock, Deshone Kizer).
As far as the signaling it's a tank, I don't know if I'd go that far. I think it was better to be a seller than a buyer. They are probably looking at going 1-2 at best over the next three games before they face DET and KC. They also face NYG, CAR, and CHI so there are winnable games left. I think it's less about tanking and more about being realistic about where they are and what the prospects for the season are. Rasul's a good player but I doubt he's moving the needle THAT much.
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Depends on what the Bears picks will be. I don't see Harrison getting past the Bears. Right now Bears have 2 & 3.Originally posted by SudsMcBucky View PostAbsolutely. And as I play around with mocks, I can get MH about half the time at 6.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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6: R1 P6 OT Joe Alt - Notre Dame
38: R2 P6 S Lathan Ransom - Ohio State
49: R2 P17 C Sedrick Van Pran - Georgia
70: R3 P6 RB TreVeyon Henderson - Ohio State
88: R3 P24 DL Kris Jenkins - Michigan
Using Fanspeak Website.But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.
-Tim Harmston
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Just read over an interesting Mock Draft.
GB selected Deon Sanders kid at QB.
Hell if that happens might as well bring him in to coach. At least life would be very entertaining then
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TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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Sanders needs to get out of that Colorado program ASAP. Last week he was hit so much he had to be injected with painkillers at halftime. For the game he was sacked 7 times and hit another 17 times.Originally posted by Bretsky View PostJust read over an interesting Mock Draft.
GB selected Deon Sanders kid at QB.
Hell if that happens might as well bring him in to coach. At least life would be very entertaining then
))I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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I change my mind after watching USC last night. As much as I want Alt or Fashanu, if the Packers are in position, they need to draft Caleb Williams. This kid is Mahomes special. It’ll be a decade plus of slow torture if the bears get him.
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