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I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
They should be able to shore up their OL and find a decent RB and S as well. Maybe even get a QB prospect to groom as Love's replacement. Wolf found Hasselbeck, Brooks and Brunell (and lots of QB duds).
I wouldn't be shocked if Gute trades around a little like he did this past year when he turned his 2nd R2 pick (#45) for Jayden Reed, Dontayvion Wicks and Karl Brooks.
TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
They should be able to shore up their OL and find a decent RB and S as well. Maybe even get a QB prospect to groom as Love's replacement. Wolf found Hasselbeck, Brooks and Brunell (and lots of QB duds).
I wouldn't be shocked if Gute trades around a little like he did this past year when he turned his 2nd R2 pick (#45) for Jayden Reed, Dontayvion Wicks and Karl Brooks.
If Harrison and the top 3 OT's are gone when the Packers pick, I'm kind of expecting Gute to try to trade down.
I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
I would too; I think odds are we end up around 10 to 12 area
I am still thinking we end up with 7 wins. We do play some Sally's
Isn't that where we drafted after year one with Rodgers? And we used the Favre pick to move up and get Clay....and then we won an Owl right after? I love it when history repeats.
The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
Isn't that where we drafted after year one with Rodgers? And we used the Favre pick to move up and get Clay....and then we won an Owl right after? I love it when history repeats.
Drafted Raji at 9. Then traded their 2nd and 3rd, plus the 3rd they got for Favre, to move up to draft Clay, plus I believe received a later pick.
I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
Drafted Raji at 9. Then traded their 2nd and 3rd, plus the 3rd they got for Favre, to move up to draft Clay, plus I believe received a later pick.
I don't remember what year it was that the Packers had I think the #5 or so overall . . . and picked AJ Hawk. Not the best pick, but I don't think it was a spectacular class after the first couple.
"The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
I don't remember what year it was that the Packers had I think the #5 or so overall . . . and picked AJ Hawk. Not the best pick, but I don't think it was a spectacular class after the first couple.
Vernon Davis went near by and the one that would have probably worked out best was the big NT, Ngata I think who went 9 or 11 or something.
Whoever you pick, wherever you pick, someone in the next 10 picks is usually better. Rare is it that you get a guy, and you’re like, yeah, in hindsight, that’s the best we could have done.
Whoever you pick, wherever you pick, someone in the next 10 picks is usually better. Rare is it that you get a guy, and you’re like, yeah, in hindsight, that’s the best we could have done.
Agreed. Sometimes its egregious like taking Myers right in front of Creed though. I get scheme and all, but one is clearly a superior football player in nearly every aspect. I also think the Gary pick wasn't the best pick because Burns and Sweat went much later and are having similar/better careers. They play the same position and as I advocated at the time, trading back for capital and taking one of them would have paid off sooner. Gary finally broke out and its time to pay him. Those guys were effective on day 1.
And this year, drafting Van Ness in front of the big OT, Jones was a mistake. Taking a position we were VERY deep and ignoring a position that clearly was going to need a new LT very soon.
The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
And this year, drafting Van Ness in front of the big OT, Jones was a mistake. Taking a position we were VERY deep and ignoring a position that clearly was going to need a new LT very soon.
Absolutely right; but most likely another exampled of Gutebag drafting a player based on his almighty RAS
TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
EDGE class in next year's draft doesn't sound great, the OT class this year was not great. Has LVN stayed in school as they expected he might have ended up a Top 10 pick. Gute is known for drafting when/where there is good depth.
Broderick Jones was ranked about where he was taken, but everyone thought he was a good run blocker and poor pass blocker. Probably not a fit for GB, as they prioritize pass pro over run blocking. I wouldn't have been mad if they took him, I thought he'd be a project who would be starting in 2024 after they cut/traded Bakhtiari but PIT's OL has issues at OT and they just put him in. I wouldn't say one pick is a slamdunk over the other; too soon for that.
Next year's draft has more OT's who are worthy of a R1 pick - Fashanu, Alt, possibly Mims and Lathan and someone else I'm forgetting. GB will get chances to upgrade their OL with all the top 80 picks they have. Given they didn't draft any OL this past draft, and the likely departures of Runyan, Njiman and Bakhtiari I think they will draft heavily at OL.
I do think they have a habit of drafting players who are great athletes and meh football players. I wonder if those types ofplayers have a higher bust rate than a meh athlete who is a great football player. I suppose it's all about taking swings and going for upside a la Rashan Gary.
Now that the Packers have signed Gary to an extension we all don't seem to like him as much as we did when he wasn't locked up . . . human nature, I suppose.
I'd agree with run here - Guter was looking at depth at certain positions, and even at the time - last year - it was known this coming year was going to be good for offensive linemen and safeties, and not so much for edge rushers. So Guter picked a coltish edge rusher with upside and now will probably draft two or three offensive linemen and a couple of safeties and running backs. Plus probably another corner, and a late-round ILB.
"The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
human nature in here, maybe. Most of the world has better sense than to be continually negative and panicky like so many in here.
As for the draft, Fritz, you mostly nailed it about needs. It's a question of order or priority among them.
Right up until this post, I've been in favor of keeping Aaron Jones. Now, sadly, I don't expect them to pay big for him, although maybe he comes back cheap as damaged goods (has anybody heard for sure that the injury is long term?). There should be a lot of good speed backs coming out of college, and thus no need to draft one too early. I actually like our young DBs. Obviously we take a couple, but probably not too early there either. I don't like drafting O Linemen in the first round, but very likely that's what it will be pretty much by default.
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Gary signed a pretty good deal for both sides. Not market setting, but still plenty to reward his production/potential. Won't kill the cap either.
Jones is a fan favorite and a good player, but there are whispers that he hasn't been healthy OR productive this year (outside of Game 1), and a lot of it is age.
RBs age overnight and even though they've never driven Jones into the ground with carries you have to wonder what he has in the tank. At a minimum he wasn't his old self in the PIT game - Elandon Roberts ran him down. If they can redo his contract somehow I'd bring him back. Dillon is a great guy but he can test the market.
Deguara too.
There will be an overhaul at a few positions - Runyan, Njiman, and probably Bakhtiari are gone. Meyers is on double secret probation. OL, RB, and S will get looked at in the draft for sure. CB is a sneaky one - Jaire/Stokes are beat up and Nixon is a FA, and Nixon is a better returner than slot corner.
I could see them taking an ILB. Devondre Campbell probably has one year left at most in GB.
The roster will continue to get younger as they unspool from their cap spending.
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