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Packers currently with the 9th pick at 4-6. But things could change dramatically. There are 6 teams at 4-6 and 8 teams between 4-7 and 5-6. 13 teams between 3-7 and 5-5.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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There are a lot of bad teams and bad QBs out there. I've heard some of the 'experts' say it's because of the offseason and practice schedules negotiated by the CBA doesn't really help young players develop as much, which really hurts young QBs. Some coaches have said they don't even have time to work on fundamentals in season, you do that on your own in offseason. Probably explains why there is so much bad tackling as well. Coaches don't want to risk injuries in practice and players probably don't practice it much on their own. Too busy learning MMA with their fitness coaches.
I think GB picks no higher than 7th, somewhere in the 9-11 range sounds about right. They'll still have 5 in the top 80 or so, should be an opportunity to continue accumulating young cheap talent. Now if they can develop/coach it up...
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I like Gary just fine. He is a stud. But so is Montez Sweat (and has been for longer than Gary) who went like pick 20. Sweat is an elite athlete who played in the SEC and was more refined than Gary. Having Sweat instead of Gary those first 2 years could have been the difference between contender and Owl. Now both are getting paid at the same time.Originally posted by Fritz View PostNow that the Packers have signed Gary to an extension we all don't seem to like him as much as we did when he wasn't locked up . . . human nature, I suppose.
I'd agree with run here - Guter was looking at depth at certain positions, and even at the time - last year - it was known this coming year was going to be good for offensive linemen and safeties, and not so much for edge rushers. So Guter picked a coltish edge rusher with upside and now will probably draft two or three offensive linemen and a couple of safeties and running backs. Plus probably another corner, and a late-round ILB.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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Bakhtiari was a 4th round pick. He wasn’t great for his first two years and fans were insistent he would be replaced by Spriggs or a draft pick. But Bakh was decent his first two years and became great.
Rasheed Walker is a sleeper still as an above average LT. I’m not convinced he needs to be replaced.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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People are kind od split on Corum. I think the Senior Bowl and Combine will be important for Corum. If he looks good at the Senior Bowl and shows explosiveness at the Combine, he will be a Day 2 pick.Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View PostI'd rather have Treveyon Henderson or any of several other speed backs than Corum.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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Bit of an apples to oranges comparison. Walker is physically what you want for a T, he's that talented. Bakhtiari was an undersized guy with crazy determination and flawless technique. Bakh in his rookie year was better than Walker has been as a first year starter. Walker gets a little lazy with his technique and for a guy with his talents should be a better run blocker. He might improve (I have concerns about the OL coaching) and if he does they have a very cheap contract for a starting NFL LT. I would not be shocked if they draft a OT early, mostly because I think they want more competition and they aren't likely to have Njiman and Bakhtiari on the roster, which impacts their depth and quality.Originally posted by RashanGary View PostBakhtiari was a 4th round pick. He wasn’t great for his first two years and fans were insistent he would be replaced by Spriggs or a draft pick. But Bakh was decent his first two years and became great.
Rasheed Walker is a sleeper still as an above average LT. I’m not convinced he needs to be replaced.
Runyan has almost guaranteed himself a ticket out of town with how he's played the last two seasons, which is unfortunate. He started out really good (Newman wasn't bad as a rookie; this regression being the reason I worry about the OL coaching) and has regressed. Maybe he has an injury or RG is the wrong position for him, but there are times he looks fine and others where he looks like he doesn't know how to play football at all. Myers too, but I think they let that contract ride out another year and expire.
The tl;dr is do not be shocked if invest heavily in OL via draft/FA. They have talent on the roster but it could be a LOT better.
Consider this: why were they able to run the ball last year but not this year. (Before you say it's Aaron Jones injuries, recall that Aaron Jones is having a very down year statistically.) They can still pass block ok but this OL has gone from very good to very mediocre, primarily in run game.
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Agree. I like Corum but I wonder how tall he really is, and the wear-and-tear question is reasonable...although I thought he was still splitting carries with Donovan Edwards.Originally posted by Joemailman View PostPeople are kind od split on Corum. I think the Senior Bowl and Combine will be important for Corum. If he looks good at the Senior Bowl and shows explosiveness at the Combine, he will be a Day 2 pick.
Either way, GB needs to get younger/faster/better at RB. I like Jones and Dillon, but Jones is old, and Dillon has subpar vision. Both will be expensive for their production. I think we'll see rookie contracts next year.
Emanuel Wilson is a nice guy to compete for RB3, but until he can prove he's trustworthy at pass pro (and he's healthy) I don't know how much you can play him.
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With Love and plenty of excellent young receivers already on the team, the Packers need to be Pass-First, same as in the Rodgers years. Dillon is good as RB1 in a Pass-First situation. If his price is not too extreme, they should keep him. If not, he's not irreplaceable. Aaron Jones is damn near a Packer icon, but yeah, he's getting old. I wouldn't be surprised if the demand for him isn't what many think, and maybe the Packers can keep him for fairly cheap. It's almost sacrilegious to lowball him, but business is business. It's just not that hard to find decent young speed backs these days. That applies to the Packers and everybody else too.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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Jones is under contract for 24. A contract, kicked down the road to run it back for ARod, which now makes him playing for the Packers unlikely.But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.
-Tim Harmston
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I know you are high on the guy, and his pass pro is pretty good. He had a 3 week slump with the rest of the offense in there, but he has come around. Now he needs to show some better effort on run plays. You can't have any OL in this offense that aren't interested in run blocking. He takes that step and he could be the answer. I posted somewhere its time to stop the bullshit and start both Walker and Nijman, and move Tom to Center. It won't happen now, and Nijman likely isn't back next year, but I think it would be the best 5. Maybe Rhyan at RG, but he hasn't been that good either.Originally posted by RashanGary View PostBakhtiari was a 4th round pick. He wasn’t great for his first two years and fans were insistent he would be replaced by Spriggs or a draft pick. But Bakh was decent his first two years and became great.
Rasheed Walker is a sleeper still as an above average LT. I’m not convinced he needs to be replaced.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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So the most likely thing is to cut him because of the big back loaded contract. But it's entirely possible for him to not get any good offers in free agency, and after cutting him, the Packers re-sign him fairly cheap.
Aaron Jones I mean.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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