Official 2024 NFL Draft Thread

[bobblehead]

Me and Stenavich disagree.

You keep great company as I think Adam is about the worst, dumbest human I have listened to in interviews in recent history. I'll trust my eyes over the coach who is invested in NOT admitting everyone is getting worse under his watch.

[bobblehead]

The average height and weight of an NFL guard is 6’4.5” and 315lbs
Sean Rhyan is 6’4.5” and 322lbs

Wouldn’t he me more of a prototype?

If he is only 7lbs over average he wears it very strange. He looks closer to 350 to me. He is immensely wide. I didn't like him as a pick because I saw him as someone who didn't fit either profile, and his tape wasn't as good as Tom's was. Next time he is standing next to Tom (who is simlar size to his combine size 6'4" 305lbs tell me there is only 17 pounds difference. If its true, one is a rock, the other is a marshmallow.

[bobblehead]

A good tackle is hard to find. Bulaga thinks Tom is legit. I don’t like the idea of moving a more rare piece into a position that’s easier to fill and then trying to fill the tougher position with high draft picks.

That’s the same reason I hope Walker keeps progressing. It would be such a luxury to have two young, legit tackles.

I know we’re sick of drafting defense high, but I think it’s ideal if we could somehow hit on a true stud DT. The defenses with dominant DL are so hard to beat.

Tom is very solid at RT, but he could be like Jenkins at G and I have no idea at C, but that was what the brass projected him as. I agree, guys that can play T usually end up there. Truth be told the OL has played much better and Dillon just has shit vision. Like last year they have improved in all areas the last 4-5 weeks. Walker has been really smooth in pass pro. I bag on him, but he probably works a lot more on pass pro than run blocking. I really do think Stenovich is a horrible coach. Myers, Runyan and Newman have all regressed. I'm not positive Walker has improved as much as gotten healthy after that bad shoulder his senior year of college. Nijman has flattened, and some of that is focus, but a coaches job isn't to insult a player with focus issues, its to find a way to get through to him to be locked in every snap. Hey ho, Steno needs to go (and take Barry with him).

[Joemailman]

Tankathon now has Packers picking 20th and taking Cooper DeJean - CB - Iowa. Packers love their Hawkeyes. https://www.tankathon.com/nfl/mock_draft

[call_me_ishmael]

Tom is very solid at RT, but he could be like Jenkins at G and I have no idea at C, but that was what the brass projected him as. I agree, guys that can play T usually end up there. Truth be told the OL has played much better and Dillon just has shit vision. Like last year they have improved in all areas the last 4-5 weeks. Walker has been really smooth in pass pro. I bag on him, but he probably works a lot more on pass pro than run blocking. I really do think Stenovich is a horrible coach. Myers, Runyan and Newman have all regressed. I'm not positive Walker has improved as much as gotten healthy after that bad shoulder his senior year of college. Nijman has flattened, and some of that is focus, but a coaches job isn't to insult a player with focus issues, its to find a way to get through to him to be locked in every snap. Hey ho, Steno needs to go (and take Barry with him).

He has been so good that I don't think he'd want to move to G or C because someone will pay him T money. That dude looks like he's gonna be a good player there for years to come. It does seem like he'd benefit to get a little bigger. He looks small to me. Almost too fit for a yokozuna.

[bobblehead]

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[texaspackerbacker]

I'm starting to like the idea of taking a RB, maybe even Braelin Allen, not necessarily in the first round, but more likely in the second.

If we could get a guaranteed star, I'd advocate taking a O Lineman, but it's hard to not think about generations of Mandarich, Sherrod, etc. I don't think we need a Corner or Safety, at least not early. I strongly don't think we need a Receiver or Edge Rusher. Maybe ILB early, but you have to pick and choose very carefully there. It might be better to take on 3rd or 4th round. D Line? The way Barry's D uses them doesn't justify a first round pick.

[run pMc]

BPA all the way, of course, but I think they will (and should) lean heavily towards OL, S and RB. I wouldn't be shocked to see them take a chance on a Day 3 corner.

I'm out on Brealon Allen. Big RBs like him rarely succeed, and I'm not sure what he does that is better than AJ Dillon. What traits does he have that are better than Dillon? Both are big dudes who run upright. The NFL DLs are bigger and stronger than any on the college level.
I wouldn't touch a RB before R3 unless they were near-generational level. The opportunity cost at other positions is pretty high. Was Dillon worth a R2 pick? Would you feel better if he were a R3 or R4 pick? I'd be fine with them not taking a Day 2 RB, especially if it meant finding the next Nick Collins, Mike McKenzie or a James Jones. It won't matter who they have at RB if their run blocking doesn't improve.

[Fritz]

I think they've got enough needs - offensive linemen (plural), safety (maybe safeties), a corner (I'm concerned that Alexander is becoming injury prone and will continue to be) - that I wouldn't spend anything more than a third (and even that's iffy for me) for a back. Unless, as run said, they're near-generational.

I'm wondering if Gutes picks two, maybe in later rounds.

[Joemailman]

With the Packers now holding the 20th pick in the draft, a lot of people are looking at Cooper DeJean of Iowa. He's played CB last 2 years at Iowa, but was recruited as a safety and has the build to play there. (6-1, 209). Packers love their Hawkeyes.

Current Draft Projection and Summary

On my board, DeJean grades out as a top-25 prospect in the 2024 NFL Draft who could feasibly challenge for top-15 capital, depending on schematic preference. It remains to be seen whether or not he’ll unseat Kool-Aid McKinstry as CB1, but DeJean is firmly in the Round 1 CB discussion.

DeJean’s traits and style mesh particularly well with zone and off-man schemes. He’s an explosive, gliding athlete at 6’1″, 209 pounds, with stellar space management skills, zone awareness, route IQ, and reaction quickness, and he also has the rapid closing speed to trigger and wash in front of ill-fated throws.

Naturally, with his mass, DeJean doesn’t quite have elite fluidity. He’s fluid enough with exceptional corrective athleticism, but there are times when he struggles to sink on sharper transitions. Nevertheless, DeJean has great discipline and foot speed in press-man, and he can use his length and physicality to dictate releases as well.


The tape evaluation speaks very favorably of DeJean’s diagnostic tools, both physical and mental. And at the end of the day, the production corroborates his talent. He’s a prolific ball hawk with unmatched playmaking statistics and a support defender with all-encompassing range, physicality, and utility.

There’s an outcome where DeJean splits time between the boundary, the slot, and field safety at the NFL level. Ultimately, he’s an extremely role-versatile player based on the game script. Let him manage and play in space, and let him crash downhill and attack blocks. Either way, he’ll produce from whichever alignment he takes on these jobs.

[texaspackerbacker]

BPA all the way, of course, but I think they will (and should) lean heavily towards OL, S and RB. I wouldn't be shocked to see them take a chance on a Day 3 corner.

I'm out on Brealon Allen. Big RBs like him rarely succeed, and I'm not sure what he does that is better than AJ Dillon. What traits does he have that are better than Dillon? Both are big dudes who run upright. The NFL DLs are bigger and stronger than any on the college level.
I wouldn't touch a RB before R3 unless they were near-generational level. The opportunity cost at other positions is pretty high. Was Dillon worth a R2 pick? Would you feel better if he were a R3 or R4 pick? I'd be fine with them not taking a Day 2 RB, especially if it meant finding the next Nick Collins, Mike McKenzie or a James Jones. It won't matter who they have at RB if their run blocking doesn't improve.

BPA? Does Braelon Allen's middle name start with P? ....... Just kidding. I know you mean Best Player Available, and I tend to agree. It's just that there are a helluva lot of position groups where the Packers are set right now. I also do not dislike the idea of getting this DeJean guy. Iowa players seem to be successful in the NFL more often than some others.

About Braelon Allen, though, what does he have that Dillon doesn't? Breakaway speed. I haven't seen a 40 time on him, but when healthy, he's left a lot of defenders in the dust. And that's not a knock on Dillon, who has been really upping his game lately. And I said, 2nd, not 1st round. He might even fall to the 3rd. I say all of this as somebody who for a long time has opposed drafting a RB early. This year, though, it seems to be at or near the top of the needs the Packers have.

[ThunderDan]

I'm starting to like the idea of taking a RB, maybe even Braelin Allen, not necessarily in the first round, but more likely in the second.

If we could get a guaranteed star, I'd advocate taking a O Lineman, but it's hard to not think about generations of Mandarich, Sherrod, etc. I don't think we need a Corner or Safety, at least not early. I strongly don't think we need a Receiver or Edge Rusher. Maybe ILB early, but you have to pick and choose very carefully there. It might be better to take on 3rd or 4th round. D Line? The way Barry's D uses them doesn't justify a first round pick.

So no to RB in the 1st, no OL in the 1st because they bust, don't need CB or S in the 1st. No OLB or WR. No DL because Barry misuses them.

That leaves ILB, TE, QB, P and K for the 1st round.

All joking aside, I would look at OL, DL, CB, S, ILB and DE

RB, OL, S and ILB seem to be the glaring weakness of this team if Alexander and Stokes come back healthy next year.

Campbell had a great 1st year for the Packers and hasn't been anything close to average since.

OL is doing better but you got to believe you can find a better RG and C than what we are lining up right now.

RBs need to be upgraded but I agree with run pMc. There will be a lot of really talented RBs available in round 3 and later.

I guess I would grab a WR or CB if anyone drops to where we are picking that is worth the value.

[SudsMcBucky]

So no to RB in the 1st, no OL in the 1st because they bust, don't need CB or S in the 1st. No OLB or WR. No DL because Barry misuses them.

That leaves ILB, TE, QB, P and K for the 1st round.

All joking aside, I would look at OL, DL, CB, S, ILB and DE

RB, OL, S and ILB seem to be the glaring weakness of this team if Alexander and Stokes come back healthy next year.

Campbell had a great 1st year for the Packers and hasn't been anything close to average since.

OL is doing better but you got to believe you can find a better RG and C than what we are lining up right now.

RBs need to be upgraded but I agree with run pMc. There will be a lot of really talented RBs available in round 3 and later.

I guess I would grab a WR or CB if anyone drops to where we are picking that is worth the value.

If those are our only R1 options, then let's get the punter from Iowa.

[ThunderDan]

If those are our only R1 options, then let's get the punter from Iowa.

Maybe we can trade up to grab him and then carry 2 punters on the active roster because he can’t figure out how to punt in the NFL.

[run pMc]

If those are our only R1 options, then let's get the punter from Iowa.

what about long snapper? save that for day 2?

they absolutely need help at many spots on the roster. I will be shocked if they don't draft 2 OL, 2 RBs and a S. There's maybe a 10% chance Jones AND Dillon are both back next year.