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Cool. Just so long as you made sure they all know that they still suck. Can't ever let 'em forget that for even a moment, or they start getting cocky like those damned Viking fans.Originally posted by NewsBruin View PostIt's Senior Bowl week. I just wanted to tell y'all that I hissed at a quartet of Chicago Bears coaches on my way to the office.
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One of my friends really likes one of Texas's defensive linemen. It'd be crazy to draft one in the first round, but you can never have enough, and if the guy is a difference-maker, what the hell?"The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
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There are 2 DL from Texas that are late 1st/early 2nd round types. Byron Murphy is a 6-1/300 lb. 3-tech. T'vondre Sweat is a 6-4/346 lb. NT.Originally posted by Fritz View PostOne of my friends really likes one of Texas's defensive linemen. It'd be crazy to draft one in the first round, but you can never have enough, and if the guy is a difference-maker, what the hell?I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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It's Sweat that impressed him. Boy, at 346 my friend says he's even got a little shake to him. That'd be a big, quick dude right in the middle to eff up the run.Originally posted by Joemailman View PostThere are 2 DL from Texas that are late 1st/early 2nd round types. Byron Murphy is a 6-1/300 lb. 3-tech. T'vondre Sweat is a 6-4/346 lb. NT."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
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I'm a fan as well. For a big dude he can move, and he's pretty well conditioned for a guy that size. A lot of C in the league would not be able to hold up 1-1 to his bull rush.Originally posted by Fritz View PostIt's Sweat that impressed him. Boy, at 346 my friend says he's even got a little shake to him. That'd be a big, quick dude right in the middle to eff up the run.
I was skeptical about a move to 4-3, I think it will be a variable front and they more or less rushed 4 last year anyway, but an "official" move to 4-3 makes me wonder if they will look at trying a guy like Brooks on the edge at times and drafting a big dude like Sweat. Pair him with Slaton and you have some serious size in the middle to cover up your LBs. I like it.
Murphy is supposed to be more explosive and a good run defender, which is nice, but given the choice of the two I'm going with the big guy. I think he might develop into a Dexter Lawrence 2.0.
Bigger picture, Kenny Clark is still good but he plays too many snaps. I think they would be well served to rotate more guys in. Also, stuffing the run will do wonders for this team.
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yep, he moves like a LB. Sort of like Aaron Donald does. Obviously not Donald, but also 40 pounds heavier coming out.Originally posted by Fritz View PostIt's Sweat that impressed him. Boy, at 346 my friend says he's even got a little shake to him. That'd be a big, quick dude right in the middle to eff up the run.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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Donald came out 285. So it’s 65lbs.Originally posted by bobblehead View Postyep, he moves like a LB. Sort of like Aaron Donald does. Obviously not Donald, but also 40 pounds heavier coming out.
I watched the highlights and of course he looked good. He was mostly dominating guys much weaker than him. I watched his Alabama tape and they just handled him easily. If he’s ever good, it’s going to be a while because NFL guards can control him.
He’s very slow. He has a nice initial burst, but very slow and doesn’t look athletic running.
Huge guy. Looks the part. Just not a great athlete compared to NFL DTs.
I think he’s going to run 5.0 plus. If he does agility drills, I think they’ll be awful. He has a decent initial burst so maybe he’ll jump ok for his weight.
I didn’t see much more than Slaton to be honest. He’s bigger, but I think Slaton plays with a little more pop and energy against nfl competition compared to Sweats Alabama tape. Honestly, 5th round imo.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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If Sweat wants to be drafted as early as some have him rated, he'll have to convince NFL teams he can be a factor on the pass rush. I saw one site had him listed at 346 pounds, and another at 362. If he's smart, he'll show up at the combine in shape.
Sweat has a pretty good swim move. He's not just relying on a bull rush every play. And he does a pretty good job of getting his hands up to deflect passes.
I wouldn't take Sweat at 25. I'd think about it at 41. I don't think he'd be there at 58.Last edited by Joemailman; 02-08-2024, 06:27 PM.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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100% agree. I think he's gone inside 50, and I think it depends on his interviews and what kind of shape he shows up in at the combine. Garrett Bradbury can't handle Kenny Clark, imagine him trying to handle this guy. He can bull rush a Range Rover.Originally posted by Joemailman View PostIf Sweat wants to be drafted as early as some have him rated, he'll have to convince NFL teams he can be a factor on the pass rush. I saw one site had him listed at 346 pounds, and another at 362. If he's smart, he'll show up at the combine in shape.
Sweat has a pretty good swim move. He's not just relying on a bull rush every play. And he does a pretty good job of getting his hands up to deflect passes.
I wouldn't take Sweat at 25. I'd think about it at 41. I don't think he'd be there at 58.
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The #41 pick for a guy who will likely play mostly only in base defense, at least the first year, which is about 15 snaps or so a game? I might consider it - defensive linemen make that much difference - but I see the argument against drafting him.
But it's won in the trenches. So that, and another offensive tackle and a guard/center would be okay in my book."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
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Fair point. A high pick for a guy who probably comes off the field on 3rd down is not for many teams. I do think someone takes him in R2 because of his size and tape unless he craps the bed at the combine.Originally posted by Fritz View PostThe #41 pick for a guy who will likely play mostly only in base defense, at least the first year, which is about 15 snaps or so a game? I might consider it - defensive linemen make that much difference - but I see the argument against drafting him.
But it's won in the trenches. So that, and another offensive tackle and a guard/center would be okay in my book.
It's BPA all the way, they have plenty of needs IMO. (We know they won't take a WR in R1.)
My guess is they go heavy on defense, and that most of their early picks are there. RBs can be found Day 3 and they have a probable starting 5 on OL but need a lot of depth. With Walker and Tom they don't need to take an OT early, wouldn't shock me if they did though.
We know Gute likes players who play/practice well at the Senior Bowl, and we know he tends to draft at positions where the draft depth is good. 11 picks this year - that should plug some talent gaps.
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