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I disagree. This draft is so fat at OL that we could easily find value with all 3 of our top picks at OL alone. And lets be honest. We could replace 2 starters on the OL and improve them quite easily. We also could use some interior depth.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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As for the LB's, I'm pretty sure Quay could play any of the spots, but they will use him at the Will because its the most prized position of the 3. McDuffie is harder to cast. He is a solid run defender, but that could land him at either sam or mike. I'm guessing mike because he knows the D and can make the calls. Also, a guy like Preston can probably man the sam. I don't see Preston as a DE in this defense, yet he is still on the roster so I think they have plans for him as a linebacker. He probably also could play weakside, but pretty sure that will be left for Quay. And I said last offseason they may start letting quay get after the QB, Parsons style. That will probably happen in this D on passing situations.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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i thought about that, but we are so damn good at finding O-line in the mid to later roundsOriginally posted by bobblehead View PostI disagree. This draft is so fat at OL that we could easily find value with all 3 of our top picks at OL alone. And lets be honest. We could replace 2 starters on the OL and improve them quite easily. We also could use some interior depth.
imo, and its based on nothing, we have a better chance at finding a starter for the O-line in the mid rounds then we do any other position
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Not nothing, you are basing it on Gutes past several drafts. Its valid, but when you get a chance to turn your OL into the best in the NFL with 2 good picks and it also happens to be where the value is, you shouldn't pass on it because you might find some quality in round 5.Originally posted by red View Posti thought about that, but we are so damn good at finding O-line in the mid to later rounds
imo, and its based on nothing, we have a better chance at finding a starter for the O-line in the mid rounds then we do any other positionThe only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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Gotta agree with Bobble there. You don't want Guter to reach for a need when he's got a much higher-ranked prospect at a position of lesser-need-but-still-needed sitting right there. Do you want your first round pick to be a potential all pro at offensive line or a JAG at linebacker?
Obviously it's not that cut-and-dried, but you see the point."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
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If that is the case, someone will get a steal if he drops to the third round. If it's not true, then that RAS is some serious suckage, right there. Not too far from my negative 4.23.Originally posted by Joemailman View PostHe's coming off meniscus surgery. I wonder if he tried to work out too early."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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I'd love this... Can't have enough edge in any defense, but esp Hafley's.... Should be an interesting draft: what's avaliable/where Gute goes with it. Having that many picks, really allows GUte to do whatever he wants.Originally posted by run pMc View PostMy gut keeps telling me that Gute is going to draft Chop Robinson in R1. The Saleh defense uses smaller guys at end/edge than Pettine/Barry did, and he fits the mold. Enagbare will start the year on the PUP, Preston is getting old and pricey, and Brenton Cox got no meaningful snaps.
I'd prefer Dejean if he's there, but I could absolutely see them taking a pass rusher.
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I would take the Chopper in a second
I think he'll be gone by the time GB picks thoughTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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With 11 picks, this may be a year where that's not an unreasonable possibility. I'll bet he's at the top of Hafley's list, now that we've got McKinney onboard. We could package #25 with either #88 or #91 and be elgible to move up to #19 or #20, and that might make the difference. It seems likely we'd be adding quite a bit of value with that move.Originally posted by KYPack View PostThink he's worth a move up to get him?
Edge pressure will be pure gold to Hafley
If they do, I'm good with it. I'm sure they wouldn't do it unless they'd thoroughly done their homework and there was something about him that totally rocked their world, and they certainly know a hell of a lot more about these guys than I do.Last edited by Frozen Tundra; 03-25-2024, 12:02 AM.
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I would not trade up for Chop. He might not be everyone's cup of tea and is in the 20-40 pick range from what I've seen. He's explosive but he doesn't have the sack production. I think anyone taking him top 15 is reaching, especially when there are so many good OL in this draft and so many JAG OL in the league.
I don't think Gute is going to trade up in this draft, if he makes any trades, I actually think it will be for a player... i.e., trade a R4 pick for a LB who can slide right in as a starter. The FA pickings are not good and this isn't a great LB draft class.
If Quay is going to play the Will, it would be strange to pick Edgerrin Cooper (who would also be a Will). I'm curious to see who the LBs and the safety next to McKinney are, as well as how they are used.
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Off ball LB are kind of like RBs. Taking one in the first should be the exception, never the rule. You can find the draft peppered with serviceable S/M off ball LBs. You stumble into a guy with good instincts (equivalent to RB vision) and you have yourself a good 2 down LB.
Given the depth of CB and OT I can't imagine taking anything else at 25 to be honest (depth coupled with our needs). Thus, I'm sure Gutes will draft a WR.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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I've done some interactive mocks lately where DeJean is available at 25, Barton at 41, and Edgerrin Cooper at 58. Don't know if that's realistic, but I'd be pretty happy.Originally posted by bobblehead View PostOff ball LB are kind of like RBs. Taking one in the first should be the exception, never the rule. You can find the draft peppered with serviceable S/M off ball LBs. You stumble into a guy with good instincts (equivalent to RB vision) and you have yourself a good 2 down LB.
Given the depth of CB and OT I can't imagine taking anything else at 25 to be honest (depth coupled with our needs). Thus, I'm sure Gutes will draft a WR.I can't run no more
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While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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Wow: The belief amongst executives in the NFL who know #Commanders GM Adam Peters is that he will draft J.J. McCarthy at #2 overall.
If true, this would open things up for the Vikings to trade up to 5 and take Daniels or Maye.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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