Official 2024 NFL Draft Thread

[texaspackerbacker]

Nah. I can honestly say I've never listened to even on of those Coldplay songs - and never will.

What is the response for ya'all sacred cow worshipers to the idea that Rodgers had to escape horrible pass rush pressure his whole career, much more than most QBs on most teams, and that the few times we had to use backup QBs like Seneca Wallace, the porous O Line got exposed by that horrible pressure on the QB? I would think that shit is pretty hard to deny for anybody who ain't blind. Also, the fact that the Packer running game was extremely much more successful up the middle instead of off tackle or outside - how do ya'all get out of that one?

[sharpe1027]

Analyzing two games of Seneca Wallace isn't the slam dunk you think it is.

Neither is a generalized statement about success inside runs versus outside runs.

Neither is constantly insulting anyone that doesn't agree with you.

I get it. You're smarter than everyone else and nobody will convince you otherwise.

[texaspackerbacker]

Is that the clique's response? To your credit, you're not denying the obvious - that Packer QBs were horribly rushed most of the time for the past couple of decades. I'll also give you credit for remembering Seneca Wallace. It wasn't quite as bad with Tolzien or Hundley or whoever as they had a little bit of mobility, just not like Rodgers or Favre. But through it all, the mediocrity of the O Line was consistent. And good job also of acknowledging the "generalized statement" about the run game. Nothing is all the time, but it sure was a "generalized thing" that most of the success was inside running.

Insults? I reserve terms like dumbass for a select few in here - usually counterpunching. Have I ever called you that? or KYP? or most of the rest of ya'all. If you think calling ya'all "sacred cow worshipers" is an insult, that would be kinda acknowledging that it's a bad thing to be hahahaha.

[Fosco33]

Is that the clique's response? To your credit, you're not denying the obvious - that Packer QBs were horribly rushed most of the time for the past couple of decades. I'll also give you credit for remembering Seneca Wallace. It wasn't quite as bad with Tolzien or Hundley or whoever as they had a little bit of mobility, just not like Rodgers or Favre. But through it all, the mediocrity of the O Line was consistent. And good job also of acknowledging the "generalized statement" about the run game. Nothing is all the time, but it sure was a "generalized thing" that most of the success was inside running.

Insults? I reserve terms like dumbass for a select few in here - usually counterpunching. Have I ever called you that? or KYP? or most of the rest of ya'all. If you think calling ya'all "sacred cow worshipers" is an insult, that would be kinda acknowledging that it's a bad thing to be hahahaha.

https://wisportsheroics.com/the-great-offensive-lines-in-the-aaron-rodgers-era/

[Fritz]

As I get older and realize I know less than I thought I did, I am less certain of what the Packers "should" do with the draft. I have tendencies - trade back rather than up, build from the lines on out, and so on - but those are just extensions of my own personality quirks rather than opinions rooted in research and study.

So I don't know what the hell would be a good first-round move, or even what would constitute a good draft, except that there better be some safeties and linebackers and offensive linemen in there, and a running back, too.

I saw APB post The Shadow's mock draft, I think it was, and a wide receiver named "Ladd McConkey" or something like that was listed as a pick in the second round. Doesn't seem like they'd want another wide receiver in an early round, but doesn't his name remind you of "Boaty McBoatface," and wouldn't that be a fun name to kick around in discussions?

I only really know some of the big names that are tossed around here and in the few articles I read, so if the Packers draft someone I haven't really read about, I'll probably think it's a bad pick, even though I don't know shit.

It's fun to be a fan.

[sharpe1027]

I don't know single person that agrees with this line of argument. Many completely and utterly disagree, including people with coaching and playing experiences and people who's job is to evaluate their play

We must therefore except one of two things.

All these other people, each of us included, are" blind," and Tex is right in seeing something none of us can understand.

Or

Tex is completely wrong.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

https://wisportsheroics.com/the-grea...n-rodgers-era/

Other than Bulaga, who was injury-prone and probably a tad above par when he did suit up, none of the Yokozunas listed were 1st rounders. Moral of the story? Pack ain’t need to waste 1st rounders on Yokozunas.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Nah. I can honestly say I've never listened to even on of those Coldplay songs - and never will.

What is the response for ya'all sacred cow worshipers to the idea that Rodgers had to escape horrible pass rush pressure his whole career, much more than most QBs on most teams, and that the few times we had to use backup QBs like Seneca Wallace, the porous O Line got exposed by that horrible pressure on the QB? I would think that shit is pretty hard to deny for anybody who ain't blind. Also, the fact that the Packer running game was extremely much more successful up the middle instead of off tackle or outside - how do ya'all get out of that one?

Seriously, check out Clocks.

The lights go out and Butte can’t be saved
Tides that he tried to swim against
Have brought him down upon his knees

Come out upon Butte’s seas
Cursed missed opportunities
Is Love a part of the cure?
Or is Love part of the disease?

Butte is
Butte is
Butte is
And no one else compares

[Fosco33]

Seriously, check out Clocks.

The lights go out and Butte can’t be saved
Tides that he tried to swim against
Have brought him down upon his knees

Come out upon Butte’s seas
Cursed missed opportunities
Is Love a part of the cure?
Or is Love part of the disease?

Butte is
Butte is
Butte is
And no one else compares

Are you perfecting chatgpt lyrics leveraging famous songs. I dig

[bobblehead]

As I get older and realize I know less than I thought I did, I am less certain of what the Packers "should" do with the draft. I have tendencies - trade back rather than up, build from the lines on out, and so on - but those are just extensions of my own personality quirks rather than opinions rooted in research and study.

So I don't know what the hell would be a good first-round move, or even what would constitute a good draft, except that there better be some safeties and linebackers and offensive linemen in there, and a running back, too.

I saw APB post The Shadow's mock draft, I think it was, and a wide receiver named "Ladd McConkey" or something like that was listed as a pick in the second round. Doesn't seem like they'd want another wide receiver in an early round, but doesn't his name remind you of "Boaty McBoatface," and wouldn't that be a fun name to kick around in discussions?

I only really know some of the big names that are tossed around here and in the few articles I read, so if the Packers draft someone I haven't really read about, I'll probably think it's a bad pick, even though I don't know shit.

It's fun to be a fan.

I didn't know most of the players APB posted, but I am assuming they were all white and the post was in jest. It has some humor value and required some research which is why I don't hate on APB as much as many here do.

[bobblehead]

I don't know single person that agrees with this line of argument. Many completely and utterly disagree, including people with coaching and playing experiences and people who's job is to evaluate their play

We must therefore except one of two things.

All these other people, each of us included, are" blind," and Tex is right in seeing something none of us can understand.

Or

Tex is completely wrong.

There are many examples of the crowd being wrong and the lone voice being right. Tex has never been one of those examples.

[run pMc]

Yeah it's been well established Tex doesn't know OL.
FWIW, I saw a PFF chart that showed Jordan Love was pressured 212 times last year. Dak was pressured 229 times, Brock Purdy 245, Jalen Hurts 270, Mahomes 303 (!)

I honestly don't care if they draft Graham Barton at 25 if he becomes the next Zach Martin. I'm expecting it their R1 pick to be non-splashy tbh. They aren't drafting a WR without trading someone (Watson? Doubs?) to make room.

[The Shadow]

Shadow’s Packers Mock Draft:

1. CB Cooper DeJean
2. WR Ladd McConkey
2. RB Will Shipley
3. S Cole Bishop
3. LB Tommy Eichenberg
4. Edge Jonah Elliss
5. DT Logan Lee
6. TE Tanner McLachlan
7. OT Garret Greenfield

.................................................. ...
I think you forgot Dylan Laube.

[red]

i'm liking a few of the other safeties the more i hear and read about them

draft is weak for free safeties, but there seems to be a bunch of guys that are decent at "in the box/nickel" type guys. which is what we need

bullard from georgia
bishop from utah
hicks from washington state
tykee smith from georgia
james williams from miami (built like a LB)

we can get a starter after the first round, probably even in the third or later

[sharpe1027]

There are many examples of the crowd being wrong and the lone voice being right. Tex has never been one of those examples.

There are far more examples of a single voice being wrong and the crowd being right.