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  • I've said it before, Payton Wilson scares the hell out of me. 3 years from now he could be the best ILB from this class, or he could be out of the league because of age and medicals. I watched a couple games (Louisville, ND, WF) and he's fast, tall and rangy but doesn't have a lot of sand in his pants. He's a "see ball, chase and hit" type where you'd have to keep him clean. I think if a pro OL player gets his hands on him, he's done. Can't shed a block, but is fast quick enough to run around them sometimes.

    I'm not sure if Hafley's D is going to be one where the DL eat up blockers and let the LBs roam. He'll do well in a scheme like that, but he's far from a finished product.
    Which leads me to the age - he'll turn 24 just before the draft, so you're looking at a guy without much more upside, and likely a one contract player. The injuries add to the concern, although they were when he was younger and he's been healthier since, but I'm sure teams have medical concerns.

    He's a boom or bust player and one I personally would stay away from unless he's there in R4. My guess? Someone will fall in love with him before then and takes him Day 2. There's no sane way he's a R1 pick.

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    • Daniel Jeremiah has Wilson at #41 on his top 50 board. That may indicate exactly the decision Gute would have to make. You may be able to get him at 41, but not later.
      I can't run no more
      With that lawless crowd
      While the killers in high places
      Say their prayers out loud
      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
      A thundercloud
      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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      • Kentucky RB Ray Davis meeting with Packers today. Likely 3-4 round pick.
        I can't run no more
        With that lawless crowd
        While the killers in high places
        Say their prayers out loud
        But they've summoned, they've summoned up
        A thundercloud
        They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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        • Davis probably represents the lowest RAS the Packers are willing to tolerate from a RB in the draft. If he's projected as a 4th, with a 6~ RAS, we would probably take him in the 6th if he falls.

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          • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
            Packers #25 picks:

            2004: Ahmad Carroll
            1999: Antuan Edwards
            1967: Don Horn
            1936: Bernie Scherer

            Better trade the pick.
            Yeah, I think we ALL were cursing at the TV when that Bernie Scherer card got turned into the podium and announced.

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            • Originally posted by smuggler View Post
              Davis probably represents the lowest RAS the Packers are willing to tolerate from a RB in the draft. If he's projected as a 4th, with a 6~ RAS, we would probably take him in the 6th if he falls.
              he has some fun tape; I really liked him until I learned he was old. Dude is older that Payton Wilson (by a few months - Nov 1999). That's an old rookie. Has a good back story, I like his toughness and has some wiggle for his size. R4 feels rich for me, Few RBs will come off the board until Day 3 so I expect that to be when Gute strikes. Am very curious to see Gute's draft moves at RB and S - will say a lot about the current and future roster expectations.

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              • Originally posted by SudsMcBucky View Post
                Yeah, I think we ALL were cursing at the TV when that Bernie Scherer card got turned into the podium and announced.
                6 picks later, Paul (Bear) Bryant, who played the same position, was picked.
                I can't run no more
                With that lawless crowd
                While the killers in high places
                Say their prayers out loud
                But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                A thundercloud
                They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                • Dane Brugler
                  @dpbrugler

                  From NFL team at Cooper DeJean's pro day:

                  4.43/4.45 40-yard dash
                  38.5" vert
                  10'4" broad

                  Outstanding workout.
                  I can't run no more
                  With that lawless crowd
                  While the killers in high places
                  Say their prayers out loud
                  But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                  A thundercloud
                  They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                  • Gotta think that DeJean goes before 25 with the tape and the excellent pro day showing. Maybe we trade up, but probably not.

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                    • DeJean's numbers would have been in the middle among CB's at the combine. But the fact he does it at 202 pounds makes his RAS elite. Almost all mocks I've seen has him going 20-25.
                      I can't run no more
                      With that lawless crowd
                      While the killers in high places
                      Say their prayers out loud
                      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                      A thundercloud
                      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                      • No agility drills The lack of agility drills by players has been pretty frustrating - it's worse each year, and yet very important to measure. At least they do the jumps. Few players run in a straight line for 40 yards.

                        For some reason I don't think he's the top choice for GB at 25. He's a fine prospect but I feel like there are some who have fixated on him and... I don't get it.
                        If you try to turn him into a safety there's no guarantee it will work right away, and as a safety prospect he's considered a better fit in the old Barry scheme.

                        If he's there and they take him, great. If he's there and they take an EDGE or OT or (gasp) a different CB, I can't wait to see the Packer Internet turn irrational and fiery on Gute.

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                        • Originally posted by SudsMcBucky View Post
                          Yeah, I think we ALL were cursing at the TV when that Bernie Scherer card got turned into the podium and announced.
                          TV? It was broadcast on the Columbia Broadcast Service - or was it the National Broadcast Corporation? - I can't remember. And they didn't turn in any damn card. They wrote him a letter and sent it via the U.S. Mail.

                          Found a picture of that Payton Wilson. I had to look around, but I finally found it on the AARP website.

                          "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                          KYPack

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                          • Originally posted by smuggler View Post
                            Gotta think that DeJean goes before 25 with the tape and the excellent pro day showing. Maybe we trade up, but probably not.
                            Unlike the 8 times in 7 years, you can't explain how 30 guys will be off the board before we pick at 25. Maybe Cooper goes, but there will be some help available.
                            The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                            • Gonna need context on a crackpot comment like that.

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                              • Originally posted by SudsMcBucky View Post
                                Yeah, I think we ALL were cursing at the TV when that Bernie Scherer card got turned into the podium and announced.
                                thats one of the rare occasions when selecting just based on a high RAS score can bite you in the ass

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