Gary Extended

[RashanGary]

My understanding is it’s 5 years 106M

[RashanGary]

21M when bosa gets 30. Fair.

[Joemailman]

My understanding is it’s 5 years 106M

Including this year. I think it's a 4 year 96M extension added onto the 10.8M he's making this year.

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Including this year. I think it's a 4 year 96M extension added onto the 10.8M he's making this year.

making it really a 5 year 106.8 million dollar deal

not so bad. 21.36 per year

[RashanGary]

making it really a 5 year 106.8 million dollar deal

not so bad. 21.36 per year

It’s a really good deal. In the last year, the cap hit is 30. That’s bosas per year average

[Anti-Polar Bear]

But it DOESN'T increase current hit. It hits in future years. Right here in the article:

"The new contract for Gary will likely increase his salary cap hit for 2023 by a small amount."

Sud’s logic:

Gary’s new contract doesn’t increase the current cap hit against the Packers cap, the 2023 cap.

Then posts quotation saying the extension causes an increase in cap hit against the 2023 cap.

[RashanGary]

Preston Smith has 4 sacks so far. There doesn’t seem to be much drop off in his play. Our cap situation is good moving forward. Preston’s cap hit would be 16.5M, which is a very fair cap number for a solid edge player getting about 8 sacks per year and playing the run well.

Rashan Gary played in 25% of the snaps his rookie year and got 2 sacks
LVN played in 35% of the snaps so far and has one sack

I’m year 2, Gary played 50% of the snaps and got 5 sacks


LVN and Gary are both elite athletes for the position. Long, strong, naturally gifted run stoppers with physical traits that suggest a high pass rush ceiling. With Preston not showing drop off yet, I think you roll the dice on one more year and have those three as your top edge guys next year.

Enagbare isn’t a great player, but entering his prime, he’s a reliable 4th edge.

[run pMc]

You’re ignoring soaring revenues (future cap increases), future expiring contracts, future cooking and older “dead money” being wiped off books, all of which will offset future dead money.

Not ignoring those things. Just pointing out how bonuses and guarantees and converting salary to bonus works and the impacts on the cap. Gute/Ball did this a LOT in the last few years to keep a core of players to 'run it back' with, such that they converted all the sizable salaries and didn't really have much left to work with. The ended up with a lot of dead cap.

In addition to contracts expiring and future cooking, there are void years, new player contracts, contract extensions, and random events like COVID potentially impacting the cap. Oh, and revenue is growing, but it's not going to grow infinitely. Eventually there's only so much appetite for the sport and something else could come along. That said I do think the cap will continue to grow in the foreseeable future, but contracts will grow as well. Reggie White signed for 4yr/17M back in the day.

I don't completely disagree with you, I just think you're presenting a slanted perspective, presumably to be glib.

[SudsMcBucky]

Sud’s logic:

Gary’s new contract doesn’t increase the current cap hit against the Packers cap, the 2023 cap.

Then posts quotation saying the extension causes an increase in cap hit against the 2023 cap.

Yep, now you're just arguing to argue. A SMALL AMOUNT, FFS!!! And if you are still trying to argue this team isn't in cap hell THIS year, it's a good thing you still flip burgers.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Yep, now you're just arguing to argue. A SMALL AMOUNT, FFS!!! And if you are still trying to argue this team isn't in cap hell THIS year, it's a good thing you still flip burgers.

Yo, you’re the one who argued the Gary extension “doesn’t INCREASE current cap hit.”

According to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, Gary’s cap hit went from 10.9 to 11.7 post extension. I realize that the increase ain’t that phat, but I ain’t the one who doesn’t understand elementary math. An increase is an increase, no matter how phat.

And would you argue that backloaded contracts post the risk of a “cap hell” in the future? According to know it all Packerrats capologists, the “dead money” of Butte, Amos, Lewis, Cobb, among others, is primarily the reason the Packers are in a cap hell.

If so, wouldn’t it be unwise for a team already drowning in cap hell to keep handing out phat, backloaded contracts? The Fucking Center got paid in December or January. Gary now got paid. Looks like the Packers will be in cap hell for a long ass fucking time.

Oh wait, cap hell is short-term, right? If so, who cares that the Packers are in a cap hell today since they’re just gonna escape said hell tomorrow?

Gary’s extension is proof that the Packers were never - and are not - in a “cap hell.”

[run pMc]

Yep, now you're just arguing to argue

That about sums it up, from what I can see.

[bobblehead]

Yep, now you're just arguing to argue.

Queue monty python.....No I'm not.

[Joemailman]

Queue monty python.....No I'm not.

You most certainly are.

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GET ON WITH IT!!!!!!!

[QBME]

GET ON WITH IT!!!!!!!

Always pardon me, forgive me that..