Embrace the Tank

[CaptainKickass]

My expectations are so low at this point I feel no pain

This is absolutely THE key to enjoying the season.

[ThunderDan]

I would agree with all of this.

I think Gutebag expected GB to be bad this year; maybe not as bad as they are but there were reason't he didn't sign a reliable vet WR, or bring in a TE who could actually block.

I also think some vets would have more inssues with the performance than the 1st/2nd year guys. Part of that is even more troubling that we just dumped one of them for not enough when we really didn't have any step in younger backups ready

And Gutebag's presser was complete Shit.

If you listen to Flower, and Barry, those two are coaching their asses off and were not happy with the Rasul Sale

Maybe it does all make sense.

Packers are in cap hell this year and cap not great next year. But they can back in good position in 2025.

You take 2023 to see if Love is the next QB, if he isn’t you had a bad year and should be drafting high.

I, as a fan, want us to win every game.

[Bretsky]

Maybe it does all make sense.

Packers are in cap hell this year and cap not great next year. But they can back in good position in 2025.

You take 2023 to see if Love is the next QB, if he isn’t you had a bad year and should be drafting high.

I, as a fan, want us to win every game.

Just board the Tank Bus with me TD

I am not at all convinced Jordan Love is the guy. If he's not there are QB coming out next year.

And I'm happy to be wrong. If he is the guy, maybe we get the top OT in the draft, or my wishes, the best WR and top player in the draft.

We're accumulating draft picks; when we decide to win down the road we absolutely need a few Vet Leaders though.

Going to be an interesting ride.

WHAT BITES....my 2nd favorite team is the dam RAMS, and they suck too.f

It sux to have no quality team to cheer for...lol

[texaspackerbacker]

IT's very prevalent in Basketball Tex; how many teams do you think wish they might have tanked right now to better their chances of getting Lebron James "

Our roster has holes EVERYWHERE; we need some stud's

It's the kind of stupid thing that the perpetual losers do - in any sport.

[Joemailman]

Tanking has less chance of working in the football though because of the number of players involved. Basketball obviously has the highest chance.

[RashanGary]

Tanking has less chance of working in the football though because of the number of players involved. Basketball obviously has the highest chance.

Top 5 picks bust in football every single year.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Yes, embrace me, the Tank.

Cos, I don't believe in Love. I never have and I never will. Love’s never worth the pain that you feel.

[MadScientist]

Who in their right mind would embrace the Tank? Even hookers charge double to do so.

[Joemailman]

Packers win.

[Bretsky]

Top 5 picks bust in football every single year.

HOWEVER......how many of the top QB's in the NFL were picked in the top 10 selections in round one ???

[Joemailman]

HOWEVER......how many of the top QB's in the NFL were picked in the top 10 selections in round one ???

Using a list of the best QB's in 2023 compiled by SI, it's a mixed bag:

1. Pat Mahomes (10)
2. Joe Burrow (1)
3. Josh Allen (7)
4. Jalen Hurts (53)
5. Justin Herbert (6)
6. Trevor Lawrence (1)
7. Lamar Jackson (32)
8. Aaron Rodgers (24)
9. Matt Stafford (1)
10. Dak Prescott (135)

[Joemailman]

Draft position of last 10 QB's to win Super Bowl:

Pat Mahomes (10)
Matt Stafford (1)
Tom Brady (199)
Pat Mahomes (10)
Tom Brady (199)
Nick Foles (88)
Tom Brady (199)
Peyton Manning (1)
Tom Brady (199)
Russell Wilson (75)

[Joemailman]

From 2012-2021, 21 QB's have been drafted in the top 10. Only Pat Mahomes has been the starting QB for a Super Bowl winner.

QB's taken in top 10 from 2012-2021:

Andrew Luck
Robert Griffin
Ryan Tannehill
Blake Bortles
Jameis Winston
Marcus Mariota
Jared Goff
Carson Wentz
Mitchell Trubisky
Pat Mahomes
Baker Mayfield
Sam Darnold
Josh Allen
Kyler Murray
Daniel Jones
Joe Burrow
Tua Tagovailoa
Trevor Lawrence
Zach Wilson
Trey Lance
Justin Herbert

[RashanGary]

The gap between Jordan Love and Joe Burrow is bigger than the gap between Brett Rypien and Jordan Love.

Embrace the tank.

[call_me_ishmael]

From 2012-2021, 21 QB's have been drafted in the top 10. Only Pat Mahomes has been the starting QB for a Super Bowl winner.

QB's taken in top 10 from 2012-2021:

Andrew Luck
Robert Griffin
Ryan Tannehill
Blake Bortles
Jameis Winston
Marcus Mariota
Jared Goff
Carson Wentz
Mitchell Trubisky
Pat Mahomes
Baker Mayfield
Sam Darnold
Josh Allen
Kyler Murray
Daniel Jones
Joe Burrow
Tua Tagovailoa
Trevor Lawrence
Zach Wilson
Trey Lance
Justin Herbert

It is a fun exercise to go through these guys and the org, swap the QB in question with Brady, and ask if they would have won anything. I think Tua has a chance despite the assness that is the Dolphins org. They have a great coach presently.

My other take away is don't draft guys from small schools. Who in their right mind didn't think/know Blake Bortles was gonna be a bust? It was so obvious.