Embrace the Tank

[Bretsky]

We don't need no stinking QB. Are any of the whiners and panicky negativists still spewing shit about Love after today?

He had a good game today; but nobody (but maybe you) is sold on him as our next Hall of Fame QB yet

[MadtownPacker]

I’m starting to sip some of the Texas koolaid. Our homeboy was slinging with authority today. It’s as if he got sick of reading this forum and was going to serve some fresh shit for us to eat.

[texaspackerbacker]

H of F no - I wouldn't even give Mahomes that until he does it a few more years. I'll say again, though, Love is well up into the upper half of QBs in the league. He outplayed one of the best today.

[Bretsky]

H of F no - I wouldn't even give Mahomes that until he does it a few more years. I'll say again, though, Love is well up into the upper half of QBs in the league. He outplayed one of the best today.

OK, so a guy who we traded our 4th and 1st for will be top 16. Let me take this a step further then

Are you happy to pay him 40 Million or more a year ? He looked very good today. But there is a lot of games I wanna see before I ordain the guy you cursed less then a year ago when we had Erin.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

H of F no - I wouldn't even give Mahomes that until he does it a few more years. I'll say again, though, Love is well up into the upper half of QBs in the league. He outplayed one of the best today.

'Upper half'? That is sorta hilarious after one good game..

[texaspackerbacker]

OK, so a guy who we traded our 4th and 1st for will be top 16. Let me take this a step further then

Are you happy to pay him 40 Million or more a year ? He looked very good today. But there is a lot of games I wanna see before I ordain the guy you cursed less then a year ago when we had Erin.

It's hilariously STUPID to think/say he's not in the upper half/top 16 or so. I'd say the guy we traded our 4th and 1st for is at least top 10. I won't say top 5 - yet.

As for that $40 million a year, when does the extension need to be made? If it's a year or more from now, either he will be worth it or it will be clear he is not. I lean toward the worth it side. It might be a good idea to extend him BEFORE it becomes obvious and maybe get him for a few million a year less.

When did I ever "curse" Love? I did say, of course that I wanted to keep Rodgers and that I thought he had 3-5 or more good years left. I also recall saying it would be a shame to lose Love, and I wish we could keep him as a backup for a reasonable amount - to wait that 3-5 years, but obviously that was very unlikely.

[run pMc]

I think you could argue that Love has played like a top 16 QB over the last 3 games, but across the entire season he's been ranked at about 30. Mostly because of things like Completion %, interceptions, etc. His accuracy issues hurt his productivity and efficiency -- even on passes he completes they are slightly off target and the receiver has to adjust -- if they are more accurate the receiver would catch them in stride and gain YAC.

I don't think he's trash, but he's not top 10 or top 5. He might get top 10 at some point in his career but he has a lot to improve on to get there. I think with a good supporting cast he can win/compete in most games.

[Bretsky]

I'll say he's greatly improved and this was pleasant to see. But logic would say he's not a top 15 QB yet. And you have to take into account that the Chargers have the worst passing defense in the NFL.

But he appears to be improving; the next two games will be interesting. Then I think we play more powderpuffs. Would be great to see him play really well against the good defenses as well.

It's great to see nearly all our WR's making strides as well as Musgrave. We'll go heavy at OL in the draft. Going to be an interesting ride

[Joemailman]

Statistically he's been top 10 the last 3 weeks. And he's done it without much help from a running game, and his best receivers are rookies. This season is all about making progress, and the last 2 weeks he's played his best games. That's more important than what his overall stats for the season are.

[RashanGary]

There are factors like injury and strength of schedule and windy games and things like that. So you can make cases for why regression may happen even at the end of the season.

But all things being within normal ranges, if you had a scatter plot, you’d like to see some upward correlation. That’s what I’m hoping for anyway.

[Upnorth]

I think we need to extend him on a long contract with no void years but lots (and I mean lots) of incentives.
I think he Is turning the corner, but was still off target on a couple important throws. Most teams pick the last td I think.

Still I think he has a longish cousins style career ahead of him.

[bobblehead]

I think you could argue that Love has played like a top 16 QB over the last 3 games, but across the entire season he's been ranked at about 30. Mostly because of things like Completion %, interceptions, etc. His accuracy issues hurt his productivity and efficiency -- even on passes he completes they are slightly off target and the receiver has to adjust -- if they are more accurate the receiver would catch them in stride and gain YAC.

I don't think he's trash, but he's not top 10 or top 5. He might get top 10 at some point in his career but he has a lot to improve on to get there. I think with a good supporting cast he can win/compete in most games.

According to ESPNs total QBR he is currently 22nd. That feels about right after some of the stinkers he put up. It wouldn't shock me if he finishes the season inside the top 15. There are only 10 really good QBs in the league.

[texaspackerbacker]

I'd argue that Love right now is better than Cousins ever was.

[bobblehead]

I'd argue that Love right now is better than Cousins ever was.

You argue a lot of things that are wrong, so this is just #208 on the list.

[run pMc]

I'd argue that Love right now is better than Cousins ever was.

That's some quality homerism there.

Kirk Cousins was playing at a very high level before his injury (dark horse MVP candidate level). He's put up pretty good numbers his entire time at MIN.
He's had a 67.9% completion rate with 1.8% Int rate for MIN. Love can barely do that in most games this year, I have doubts he can average it over 6 years.

Now I'm not saying Cousins is an elite QB, but he's the best QB in the NFCN and one of the better ones in the NFC. I think he's fair to argue he's top 10 but certainly not top 5.

Maybe Love gets there eventually, but he's not there now and has a long way to go before he's there. Like RG, I'm hoping to see improvement over the season and at end of year you see where you are. If he's meh you see if you can improve at QB, you don't Daniel Jones him. If he's top 10 potential you try to extend him with incentives. I think he's already earned 1.5M of a possible 10M in incentives?