More Banjo - Packers vs Buccaneers

[bobblehead]

Joe Barry sounds like M3. "If my ILB can't cover a 100 catch wr then of course my scheme will fail. Campbell has to do better"

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I think the Packers would love to not be on Hard Knocks. Well, MLF and Gute anyway. Distractions for a young team, and they like to keep things buttoned up anyway.
Only team who would like it less would be the Patriots with Belichick. Can you imagine him with film crews everywhere?

Capers defense was good until people figured it out, and once he made it phone book sized so only vets could play in it. Offenses are better about turnovers now, so a defense that is predicated on turnovers is unlikely to be as successful. Still, I agree a more agressive defense with tighter coverage would likely have improved GB's chances in recent games.

Disagree on giving an assistant a chance... hiring the interim guy to be the guy the next season never works out well, and I think it just becomes a distraction and adds to the drama. They're still technically in the hunt, they won't waver now. They didn't when they were 4-8 (or 8-8, or 8-9) last year. I want Barry gone, but I don't think it happens mid-season (if ever). I do agree Greg Williams has helped the secondary out vs. Jerry Gray, most likely because Gray disagreed with Barry and probably wouldn't/couldn't get on same page with him. He'd be worth keeping around, but I don't think making him DC is the way.

Not saying, guarantee Williams the DC gig for next season. Just saying, give the man a shot in the last 3 games. There’s no point in keeping Barry around anymore since he’s all but Pettined (allow to walk with an expiring contract). Perhaps Williams will call an exotic blitz, something Barry never does.

In the event that Williams pans out and eventually lands a head coaching gig, the Packers will get a 3rd rounder. Hell, the 69ers have received a tons of 3rds for grooming a tons of “minority” head coaches - even got one for Mike McDaniel.

The Packers owe it to the City of Green Bay to be on Hard Knocks. The city paid for the Lambeau renovation. Hard Knocks would provide a bit of a short-term economic boom for the city.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

The part I've put in boldface type is the kind of stuff that really pisses me off about you Barry-bashers: you complain and complain and bitch and whine that a Barry defense absolutely cannot stop the run.

And in YOUR OWN POST, you point out that Joe Barry found a way to stop Tampa Bay from running. Yet still you all bitch.

Before you start typing a reply, Tex, this is bona fide
sarcasm.

Ole Fritz hates Barry more than he hates Harbaugh for turning his and Bob McGinn’s beloved U of Michigan into a cheating factory.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Love was 29-39, 280+ yards, 2 TDS, no picks ....... that ought to be good enough to win a game.

14 points won’t win you too many games in today’s NFL. Coulda gotten another TD. Packers first series, Love had Reed open in the end zone on 4th down. Inaccurately threw OB instead.

[Joemailman]

The Onion
@TheOnion
James Webb Telescope Finds Evidence Of Packers Secondary Lined Up 20 Million Light Years Off Receivers
1:18 PM · Dec 18, 2023

[texaspackerbacker]

14 points won’t win you too many games in today’s NFL. Coulda gotten another TD. Packers first series, Love had Reed open in the end zone on 4th down. Inaccurately threw OB instead.

Wasn't it 20, not 14? Or was that sarcasm too?

Were you being sarcastic when you talked about the "bounty gate" guy a our DC? I wouldn't hold that against him, and as I recall, he was a good DC. But the guy is just 12 years younger than me - about 64 years old. Or were you talking about some other Williams?

What I see around the league is a lot of young hot shot DCs. That's what I want for the Packers.

[Patler]

14 points won’t win you too many games in today’s NFL. Coulda gotten another TD. Packers first series, Love had Reed open in the end zone on 4th down. Inaccurately threw OB instead.

Didn't they get the TD anyway? After the fumble just a couple plays later?

[Joemailman]

Ryan Wood
@ByRyanWood
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43m
#Packers had their defensive meeting this morning with Joe Barry. His message to the defense, according to Eric Stokes: “All the explosive plays, that shit will get you beat.”

[Joemailman]

Ryan Wood
@ByRyanWood

Matt LaFleur says Joe Barry will remain his defensive coordinator rest of this season. On why he's not firing Barry now: "If I thought that was the best solution today, then we'd make that decision."

[run pMc]

wow

3rd and 4 and our safety is 23 yards past the first down marker

16 yards deeper then the deepest WR

and whats worse, it looks like both CBs released their guys at the LOS

Yeah, that's Cover-2 with your safeties playing waaayyyy back. I suspect Barry has little faith in his injury replacements which might account for some extra cushion, but that's ridiculous. Those Cover-2 turkey holes are 15 yards wide, no wonder Baker couldn't miss.

[run pMc]

Ryan Wood
@ByRyanWood
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43m
#Packers had their defensive meeting this morning with Joe Barry. His message to the defense, according to Eric Stokes: “All the explosive plays, that shit will get you beat.”

Wow. Captain Obvious says, "NO SHIT SHERLOCK" to that.

[run pMc]

James Webb Telescope Finds Evidence Of Packers Secondary Lined Up 20 Million Light Years Off Receivers

Sounds about right.

[CaptainKickass]

It's apparently even worse than it seems...

The Buccaneers had only two contested catch opportunities and gained 182 yards after the catch. Overall, not one of Baker Mayfield’s 22 completions was considered to be contested, and the Bucs averaged 8.3 yards after the catch per completion. The Packers had five different defenders charged with giving up at least 50 receiving yards in coverage.

[CaptainKickass]

Just when I think I've seen all of the stats...

Their overall PFF coverage grade of 29.3 today is the lowest grade of any team in a single game in the last 5 seasons.

Historical defense?

Yes. Just not the good kind.

[Joemailman]

Best, worst PFF grades:

Top 5 offense

1. LT Rasheed Walker: 88.7
2. WR Dontayvion Wicks: 78.8
3. WR Jayden Reed: 76.3
4. LG Elgton Jenkins: 75.5
5. RT Zach Tom: 73.0

Walker gave up just one pressure (hit) over 26 pass-blocking snaps and earned an elite 90.7 grade as a run blocker. Wicks caught six of seven targets, gained 43 yards after the catch and averaged over 3.0 yards per route run. Reed made a contested catch, caught six passes overall and also averaged over 3.0 yards per route run. Jenkins allowed one hurry over 43 pass-blocking snaps and was effective in the run game. The same goes for Tom; one pressure allowed (hurry), solid as a run blocker. The offensive line, for the most part played well.

Top 5 defense

1. OLB Kingsley Enagbare: 90.7
2. DL TJ Slaton: 69.0
3. OLB Lukas Van Ness: 68.3
4. S Jonathan Owens: 66.3
5. OLB Rashan Gary: 62.4

Enagbare played 25 snaps, but his one impact snap — a sack, strip and recovery — produced an elite pass-rushing grade. Slaton had three run stops over 23 snaps against the run. Van Ness had a sack and a run stop over 26 snaps. Owens was in on 10 tackles without a miss and had two stops, earning himself a near-elite tackle grade. Gary had four hurries and a run stop.

Bottom 5 offense

1. C Josh Myers: 45.0
2. RG Sean Rhyan: 47.5
3. TE Josiah Deguara: 52.7
4. TE Ben Sims: 53.3
5. RB Patrick Taylor: 55.1

Myers had his hands full with Vita Vea. He allowed one hurry, got penalized for holding and was poor in the run game. Rhyan allowed two hurries and wasn’t good in the run game over a season-high 29 total snaps at right guard. Deguara was below average as a blocker and didn’t produce anything in the passing game. Sims was also deemed to be below average as a run blocker over 10 total snaps. Taylor caught two passes for negative yardage and was credited with giving up a sack in pass pro.


Bottom 5 defense

1. DL Colby Wooden: 26.6
2. LB Quay Walker: 29.5
3. CB Carrington Valentine: 34.4
4. CB Corey Ballentine: 46.0
5. CB Eric Stokes: 46.8

Wooden earned the team’s lowest run defense grade and didn’t have a pressure over 15 total snaps. Walker missed a tackle, graded very poorly against the run and gave up four catches for 69 yards and a touchdown in coverage. Valentine broke up one pass but otherwise gave up six catches for 68 yards. Ballentine received the defense’s second-lowest coverage grade overall. Stokes allowed four catches on four targets for 67 yards and a touchdown in coverage. Sunday was the Packers’ lowest-graded game defensively and in coverage by a wide margin in 2023.

Special teams

The Packers didn’t have a penalty or a missed tackle on special teams. Tucker Kraft was the highest-graded special teamer, while Jonathan Owens made a tackle. Daniel Whelan had a punt inside the 20-yard line and Anders Carlson made all four of his kicks, including two field goals.

Quarterback

Jordan Love: 66.6

Love hit two passes thrown over 20 yards in the air and was 7-of-10 passing when throwing past 10 yards, but he got dinged for two penalties (including a delay of game) and two turnover worthy plays (including the lost fumble). He was under pressure on just 13 of 41 dropbacks and was excellent from clean pockets (24 of 28 for 214 yards, one touchdown).