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  • #16
    Originally posted by CaptainKickass View Post








    Note that the stat says "NFL History" and not "Packers History".

    Clearly Reed is in the STUD category. He's gonna be fun to watch continuing to develop.
    I don't disagree, Cap'n. I would only remind everyone that when we talk about Reed breaking Sterling Sharpe's record, he also did it in sixteen games - same number of games that Sharpe had. That's impressive.
    "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

    KYPack

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    • #17
      A chunk of Reed's 'receptions' have been of the pop-pass variety that come from jet sweep actions, so I'm not as wowed by the reception mark. The yardage mark besting Greg Jennings rookie number is pretty impressive to me and speaks to his future potential.
      I read he got something like 8 targets out of 30 plays in the 1st half of the MIN game, which is a lot of usage for a WR. He's the de facto WR1 and has turned into a great pick for them.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Fritz View Post
        I don't disagree, Cap'n. I would only remind everyone that when we talk about Reed breaking Sterling Sharpe's record, he also did it in sixteen games - same number of games that Sharpe had. That's impressive.
        Minor detail, but Reed actually did it in 15 games played. He was inactive for the Carolina game.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Patler View Post
          Minor detail, but Reed actually did it in 15 games played. He was inactive for the Carolina game.
          Even more impressive.

          When players break season records now, it bothers me that people don't talk about the fact that teams have an extra game now, and an extra three games compared to the earlier days when teams played fourteen games. So for Reed to not need that "extra" game was impressive to me.
          "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

          KYPack

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Fritz View Post
            Even more impressive.

            When players break season records now, it bothers me that people don't talk about the fact that teams have an extra game now, and an extra three games compared to the earlier days when teams played fourteen games. So for Reed to not need that "extra" game was impressive to me.
            yup, or 5 games more than the 12 game seasons that I remember from the '50s and early '60s. Reed will shatter Sharpe's record in his first 16 games, kind of making up for the jet sweep "passes" that I think should be considered rushing more than passing.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Fritz View Post
              Carlson leads the league in missed extra points. It's almost weird, as if he's good for one a game.

              Toure is only active at all any more because the rest of the position group is hurt. Dude's been passed by Heath Malik and Bo Melton and the water boy.

              I would also like to add Rich Bisaccia to the "Duds" list. there was one long run-back at what could have been a key moment. Plus the Toure fumble, plus the missed extra point.
              I would say you could put blame on RB for the long run back for a poor scheme possibly, but he doesn't teach Toure to fumble or Carlson to kick OUTSIDE the goal posts.

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              • #22
                Well Toure basically went in ice cold to catch the punt, they could have put Nixon back there and told him to fair catch it.
                I realize injuries hit ST units, but every team has a lot of injuries. Bisaccia was supposed to improve this unit, and this is Year 2.
                I'm not sure he has fixed enough things to justify being the highest paid ST coach in the league.

                he cuold be on the hot seat next year.

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