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  • #61
    Originally posted by Scott Campbell View Post

    I think it’s fair to say he’s out produced his draft status thus far.
    This is true.

    I'm not trying to be controversial, but The assumption that they're all going to trend upward from here is unrealistic. The assumption that even one of them will be a true number 1 WR is not guaranteed.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by sharpe1027 View Post
      Take a walk down memory lane. Comps to Jefferson! even in the thread.This was the first thread I found from back then. I suspect there are more.

      https://packerrats.com/showthread.ph...corps(e)/page4
      The last post in your linked thread was October 4. The bulk of the thread was training camp fluff. There certainly was no legitimate analysis of his rookie year performance as there were still 3/4s of the season left to play when the thread ended.

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      • #63
        My bad SC. I might be wrong, but I know people, myself included, that were much more bullish on Doubs a year ago.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by sharpe1027 View Post
          This is true.

          I'm not trying to be controversial, but The assumption that they're all going to trend upward from here is unrealistic. The assumption that even one of them will be a true number 1 WR is not guaranteed.
          I don’t see anyone saying they will all go up from here, because they probably won’t. The beauty of this corps is that there are so many contenders that it doesn’t matter if my favorite happens to flop.

          I still wouldn’t mind it if they keep spreading it around so we never have to back up the truck for a true number 1. Look at what is happening to Tee Higgins now that they had to pay Chase #1 money.

          As long as our passing game is as lethal as it was down the stretch I could care less about someone emerging as a true number 1. Feed ‘em all.

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          • #65
            There was a lot of Kool-aid drinking about Doubs in training camp and early 2022. It was tempered a bit after he missed 4 games and struggled a bit when he returned from the injury. I don't remember how high expectations were going into last year.
            I can't run no more
            With that lawless crowd
            While the killers in high places
            Say their prayers out loud
            But they've summoned, they've summoned up
            A thundercloud
            They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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            • #66
              I'm with the sentiment, SC. I don't care about a true #1. I just think some of what I'm reading is a bit bullish on how good our WR core really is.

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              • #67
                Here is my thought.

                None of these guys would be doing as well as they are if they weren’t in The Flowers offense.

                LaFleur really schemes his players open. So much motion and plays they develop from previous plays.

                I don’t think any of these guys would be producing in McCarthy’s offense we ran at the end of his time here.

                Watson and Wicks are the two I think could develop into #1s.
                But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

                -Tim Harmston

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                • #68
                  Also, LefFleur uses the TE and middle of the field in his offense. We went away from that for years after Finley got hurt.

                  That really helps the WR when you know the route isn’t going down the sideline like ARod did over and over. Only ARods ability to drop it in a bucket kept our O running at times.
                  But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

                  -Tim Harmston

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by ThunderDan View Post
                    Here is my thought.

                    None of these guys would be doing as well as they are if they weren’t in The Flowers offense.

                    LaFleur really schemes his players open. So much motion and plays they develop from previous plays.

                    I don’t think any of these guys would be producing in McCarthy’s offense we ran at the end of his time here.

                    Watson and Wicks are the two I think could develop into #1s.
                    Yes and no. LaFleur is running the time proven Shannahan offense that gives Ds fits. It relies on a solid run game and as you said, previous plays setting things up. These guys are pretty good. Wicks had a monster separation rate when he played though, and that's not all scheme. If it were Allen Lazard would have been better.
                    The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by ThunderDan View Post
                      Also, LefFleur uses the TE and middle of the field in his offense. We went away from that for years after Finley got hurt.

                      That really helps the WR when you know the route isn’t going down the sideline like ARod did over and over. Only ARods ability to drop it in a bucket kept our O running at times.
                      But was that Rodgers or was it fat mike? I guess fat mike developed Rodgers so chicken and egg.
                      The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                        Yes and no. LaFleur is running the time proven Shannahan offense that gives Ds fits. It relies on a solid run game and as you said, previous plays setting things up. These guys are pretty good. Wicks had a monster separation rate when he played though, and that's not all scheme. If it were Allen Lazard would have been better.

                        It amazes me there was a GM stupid enough to sign the Lizard for over 10 MIL/year. He was system made IMO.

                        I'm way more bullish on Wicks than nearly everybody. Liked him very early.

                        Doubbs is fine but I'm not sure who to compare him to.

                        Reed looks very good and a more talented version of Cobb

                        And Watson is a freak and really good at certain routes when he's healthy. Is Tank's buddy DJ Metcalf a comp ?
                        TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                          It amazes me there was a GM stupid enough to sign the Lizard for over 10 MIL/year. He was system made IMO.

                          I'm way more bullish on Wicks than nearly everybody. Liked him very early.

                          Doubbs is fine but I'm not sure who to compare him to.

                          Reed looks very good and a more talented version of Cobb

                          And Watson is a freak and really good at certain routes when he's healthy. Is Tank's buddy DJ Metcalf a comp ?
                          Metcalf is more powerful. He outweighs Watson by about 25 pounds. Watson might be the better route runner. Speed is comparable.

                          The Lazard thing was a package deal. Jets were after the QB. I don't think anyone else would have given him that money.
                          I can't run no more
                          With that lawless crowd
                          While the killers in high places
                          Say their prayers out loud
                          But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                          A thundercloud
                          They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by sharpe1027 View Post
                            My bad SC. I might be wrong, but I know people, myself included, that were much more bullish on Doubs a year ago.
                            I was too. Shocked he didn’t take off.
                            Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                            • #74
                              I have always viewed Doubs as the possession 1st down guy...not a slot WR, but a guy who sits down before the safeties and gets you first downs like Michael Thomas at his best.

                              I also was more bullish on Wicks than Reed, but Reed exceeded my expectations. He also has exceeded Wicks so far, but that story is far from finished.

                              As for Metcalf, he was a 2nd round pick because his agility numbers weren't elite calling into question his ability to ever run great routes. Watson is different. Metcalf is a bully who can just outjump/outmuscle DBs. Watson is a freak who can't be covered if it all comes together. Watson can however be pressed at the line. Metcalf can't.
                              The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                              • #75
                                Doubs fits well here because he'll go quiet and get ignored, but Love will find him on that key third-and-twelve or fourth-and-five.

                                If Watson can stay healthy, look out. Imagine all the room underneath Wicks and Reed (and Melton) will have if a corner and safety both have to go with Watson consistently.
                                "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                                KYPack

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