Who Do You Want As Packers New DC?

[RashanGary]

I don't care if he's white or black; it's kind of warped that you'd point that out in either a positive or negative manner. I just want a great DC

There is this disdain i see on social media toward 50 year old white guys. I just think there is more trust from younger people toward youger people, and non white people.

I mean, white guys are kinda ass holes a lot of the time. Lack empathy, etc.

[RashanGary]

If you spend any amount of time on Twitter, some black guy will say, hey, I’m so proud to be the first of my family to do this and the first black guy on this spot.

And it never fails, 50 year old white guys with Oakley’s telling the guy to shut the fuck up about the race card. Maybe they’re bots, but there is huge mistrust from the way these morons talk on social media.

[Joemailman]

Parker, if he gets the job, will be a bold and exciting pick. He's worked under several coordinators in a short time. Mike Pettine in 2019-2020, Fangio/Donatell in 2021, Ejiro Evero in 2022 and Vance Joseph in 2023. He must have had some good reviews for Fangio to hire him as DB coach in 2021 after only 2 years in the NFL.

His connection to the Packers was probably through Notre Dame. He coached there in 2017 and LaFleur coached there in 2014.

He had a role with the Broncos in 2023 that involved more than just coaching DB's:

So what kind of a coach is Parker and what would he run in Green Bay, if he were named the team’s defensive coordinator? There isn’t that much information about the 32-year-old who has yet to call plays at any level, but a few reports shed light on how well-regarded he is in Denver.

One of these comes from Taylor Kyles, a Patriots beat reporter, who had a conversation with Robby Davis, who covers the Broncos. According to Davis, Parker was key to transitioning the defense from the Fangio-style defense to the scheme that Joseph wanted to run in Denver. The Packers saw the mid-season improvement from the Broncos first-hand, as they were held to just 17 points only four games after Denver allowed 70 points to the Miami Dolphins in Week 3.

Vance Joseph speaks highly of him:

“He’s sharp, man,” current defensive coordinator Vance Joseph said of Parker on June 14. “He’s sharp. He’s a star. He is a great partner to work with. As a veteran coach, I’ve coordinated for about seven years now. My tape is out there, so I’m looking for ways to do different things.

“[I’ve been] speaking with Christian every day and bouncing ideas off him from what he’s done with Vic [Fangio] and guys in the past has been fun. [We’re] making changes and growing off what they did last year. He’s smart, he works his butt off and his players love playing for him. He’s a star.”

[RashanGary]

https://x.com/itszacharyj/status/1751342893959200943?s=46&t=nQImf8h3Oxzq2_jOx_kBGw

50 year old white dudes on Twitter. Reasons the younger generations hate older white dudes.

[Joemailman]

https://x.com/itszacharyj/status/175...Oxzq2_jOx_kBGw

50 year old white dudes on Twitter. Reasons the younger generations hate older white dudes.

Nothing like Twitter to get a balanced view of what an entire generation thinks.

[bobblehead]

Id feel really good about this hire. Risky, but I like risky!

Yea, I've been doing a little reading. I like the fact that he survived 3 HC and 3 DC in Denver and he is the guy they don't want to let go. I don't think much of Vance Joseph as a coach, but it sounds like he latched onto this kid as the voice he listens to. Usually guys like Joseph survive by recognizing who is smarter than they are and utilizing that. I'm almost hoping he is the guy now that I have done some research on him this morning.

[bobblehead]

https://x.com/itszacharyj/status/175...Oxzq2_jOx_kBGw

50 year old white dudes on Twitter. Reasons the younger generations hate older white dudes.

Or their could be a ton of other reasons. But this is an issue for FYI, not for here. Bottom line is that some guys relate to players and some don't. Does Parker, who never played relate better than Leonhard who toiled for a decade? I have found that if what you say is smart, thought out and intelligent than the audience appreciates it....regardless of the audience. (yes, I realize that isn't always what I do.)

[Teamcheez1]

Leonhard may not be considering a jump to the NFL. With all the coordinator and position coach jobs available, someone with his experience would at least be able to garner interviews and likely be hired somewhere.

Since it has been largely silent, he must not be interested. There are way too many jobs for his name not to come up.

[Joemailman]

Leonhard may not be considering a jump to the NFL. With all the coordinator and position coach jobs available, someone with his experience would at least be able to garner interviews and likely be hired somewhere.

Since it has been largely silent, he must not be interested. There are way too many jobs for his name not to come up.

Or maybe after he turned down the Packers DC job, NFL teams questioned the level of his desire to coach in the NFL. Maybe nobody wants him.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Or maybe after he turned down the Packers DC job, NFL teams questioned the level of his desire to coach in the NFL. Maybe nobody wants him.

Maybe it's time to change
And leave it all behind
I've…been one to walk alone
I've always been scared to try
So why does it feel so wrong
To reach for something more
To wanna live a better life
What am I waiting for?
'Cause nothing stays the same
Maybe it's time to change
(Sick Puppies)

Oh wait, you’re talking bout Leonhard, not some 41 year old burger flipping loser.

[Joemailman]

Maybe it's time to change
And leave it all behind
I've…been one to walk alone
I've always been scared to try
So why does it feel so wrong
To reach for something more
To wanna live a better life
What am I waiting for?
'Cause nothing stays the same
Maybe it's time to change
(Sick Puppies)

Oh wait, you’re talking bout Leonhard, not some 41 year old burger flipping loser.

Leonhard is 41. Maybe he's flipping burgers for Bret Bielema.

[Fritz]

Guys I really don't want at this point

STALEY----You are getting a guy here who is friends with MLF and to be honest has run a very similar defense to Barryball. He's a hard pass for me

Up and Comers---Truth be Told, I just don't have a ton of faith in our ability to select an upcoming stud DC so I want somebody who's been there/done that and you hand the keys to. The MIlwuakee Bucks through they struck gold; but he was junk. Don't wanna take the chance

I am in the exact opposite camp. I'm tired of retreads, of guys running defenses that worked ten years ago but don't any more. The Packers need someone who can mix-and-match, adjust on the fly, zone and man, know when to blitz and when not to, understand that offenses have evolved and players play at a much higher level on offense than they did fifteen or twenty years ago. QB's dont' make the kinds of mistakes they made twenty years ago, at least not as often. The bend-but-don't-break don't work no more.


Besides, Bretsky, you used to drool if the Packers were interested in anyone the Patriots had interviewed. You thought the Patriots walked on water. And the Pats interviewed this guy.

I do think offenses perform at a higher, more consistent level than they did twenty years ago. You can't wait around for them to make a mistake by letting them slow-walk it (or in Barry's case fast-walk it) down the field.

As for the "hating-50-year-old-white-guys" thing, once you hit sixty, you're like everybody's grandpa and it's all good. So maybe hiring Rex Ryan could work out, too. But I'd like the young buck.
Man, I am fired up for a young guy. Besides, the Flower seems to do better hiring young, unproven guys (Stenavich) than retreads (Barry). So let's go big and let the kid do it. Warby Parker it is, baby! Hire that guy!

[Joemailman]

Staley is a strange case. He was made a HC in his 5th year in the NFL. Not sure if he was overrated, or if he is a talented guy who was promoted too quickly.

[Fritz]

Either way, no thank to him. Go big - The Floer’s best hires have been young, mostly unproven guys.

[red]

so whats the over under on how many years parker is here if we hire him, and if he's good

my guess is if him or any other young DCs turns out to be the next big thing, you're only gonna have him for maybe 2 years before someone hires him to be a HC

one of the downsides of hiring young unproven guys. with some of the other older guys, theyve had their chances at HCing and blew it, so no one is gonna come and take them away