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  • #61
    Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
    I think we have only Johnson on the roster....and some UDFA guy. Is that who you are referring to??

    edit: NM, cleared up before I posted this. No, Savage is not a centerfielder.
    Not to be a fact checker or anything - I hate those things hahahaha, but there actually are (or very recently were) two Johnsons, both first name Anthony - #36 the Safety from Iowa State, and #40 a Corner from Virginia. There's also the UDFA LB you mentioned that we apparently just picked up, first name Deandre.
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    • #62
      The more I think about it, the more I think I like this. I say think since I have no idea about this dude, but on paper, it sounds like a really great fit. He blitz a lot, which I like. He plays press more than just about anyone, which I like.

      Most importantly, it sounds like players are going to not have to think as much and just play. I like that a lot. Players will love playing aggressively for this dude and manning up. Nobody likes zone.

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      • #63
        Press man gets eaten alive with rub routes. No one runs press man anymore.

        If there are two WRs on one side, I’ll see one guy press and the other off. But pure press man. Offfenses have proven they eat it alive and it’s the worst coverage in football.
        Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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        • #64
          Yeah, press man is only even a little bit good if you assume Jaire is back to where he was a few years ago.

          Unless you have a truly super shut down Corner, preferably two of them, what seems to work best is what we did the last few weeks of the season, zone D with 2 or 3 deep Safetys.
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          • #65
            Originally posted by Sparkey View Post
            You had me at "The anti-Joe Barry".

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Sparkey View Post
              It will be interesting to see who he ends with for assistants. Sounds like a few of the current guys have worked with him.
              Last time GB hired a DC they kept all of their assistants. Some wonder if this was at direction from the Flower

              It would not surprise me if they bring everybody back again

              I'd prefer fresh blood
              TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                I read a good article at ACME on the type of defense he runs; this is it. More press, some zone, and in addition to the all-important centerfieldersafety (we need a Nick Collins, as someone noted), it sounded to me also like we're going to need another inside linebacker or two.

                The article made a good point, too, that Bisaccia has been using a lot of safeties for special teams, but Hafley's defenses make use of more corners than safeties, so it'll be interesting to see how that affects special teams.

                I wonder what this does to a NT like TJ Slaton? Will he fit in this scheme, or just play less? I don't know how that works. But the guy seems well-schooled in this more-current type of defense, so I am excited for the hire. As Bretsky says, who knows? We'll find out, but I do think the players are going to be more excited in a scheme like this one. Jaire will probably do better, and as you said, maybe Stokes, if he's not physically diminished. So, for the draft: top-end safety to patrol the middle (probably a high draft pick?), another inside linebacker, maybe two, another corner, maybe one earlier, one later?

                I think QUAY WALKER coudl kill it in this scheme if they let him roam the middle
                TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                • #68
                  Isaiah McDuffie played for him at BC and was second team all conference his senior year

                  Last edited by red; 02-01-2024, 07:51 PM.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                    I think QUAY WALKER coudl kill it in this scheme if they let him roam the middle
                    Back when teams played a lot of 4-3 base, Walker would have been a classic WILL. Not sure if Hafley employs much base at all. But I agree he can be very explosive in this defense if utilized the right way.
                    I can't run no more
                    With that lawless crowd
                    While the killers in high places
                    Say their prayers out loud
                    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                    A thundercloud
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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                      I think QUAY WALKER coudl kill it in this scheme if they let him roam the middle
                      Gute was talking about versatile players and he mentioned quay and then made a comment about him being special or something of that nature. I think Gute thinks there is more to Quay than having him responsible for a zone and reading run off that. The way I read the versatility part is that he can be used as more of a pass rusher who’s aggressive down hill. Because versatile indicates more than just one position and he’s only been used as a traditional linebacker so far. With very few downhill attacks on lineman as a pass rusher.
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                      • #71
                        Quay is my avatar because he’s the baddest player we’ve had on defense since I don’t even know who. Maybe Wayne Simmons.
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                        • #72
                          Quay is very much the same body type and athletic profile as Micah Parsons. I’ve seen guys similar athletes suck at pass rushing though, so it’s certainly not saying he’s anywhere near Parsons. There is a feel and an art to beating blocks. But you should at least try. He’s a rare athlete. See what he can do.
                          Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                          • #73
                            Quay does seem like an aggressive and quick guy. Seems like he'd be good blitzing. Maybe it it's less read-and-react and more attack, Quay Walker will flourish.
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                            • #74
                              I absolutely hated the Barry hire when it was announced. It's on the record from the Barry hired thread. On this hire, I actually am on board with this one. The more I learn about this guy, it seems like it could be a real good fit.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                                I think QUAY WALKER coudl kill it in this scheme if they let him roam the middle
                                Quay might end up as the strong side OLB in this scheme. Or maybe Preston can play that position. I would have been concerned years ago, but schemes kind of blend together now. This guy has a background in multiple types of Ds so I suspect he can and better be able to adjust to his on field talent. The most important factor imo is playing aggressive on 3rd downs. No more lining up in a way where we concede most of the yards and then pray we can make a tackle. Or playing the theory we have for a decade of hoping the other teams O makes a mistake before they march all the way down the field. Todays offenses are too good for that theory. You need to dictate the game to them.
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