Jeff Hafley Packers New DC

[run pMc]

Mannion is positioned to succeed Clemets as QB coach. That's what this is about.
I don't know if he'll be any good at coaching - FT's comments sure make it sound like he could be - but if MLF likes him and McVay & Co. drafted him in R3 then there's something there. If nothing else he can learn from Clements and carry on developing Jordan Love when Clements hangs it up for good. Dude is 70 and was living in AZ, he's probably not doing this much longer.

[KYPack]

Most NFL coach hires come with a history, some coaching experience on which to evaluate them. Those that don't are a shot in the dark. I feel about Mannion like I did about Rob Davis and Edgar Bennett when they came back in player development roles. It will be interesting to see where it goes. Bennett has had a nice coaching career. Davis stayed mostly in personnel roles in and out of football.

Kevin Greene seemed to be a very effective coach, but had a waivering committment to it.

KG's wifey no like Green Bay.

Same thing happened to Lombardi.

[Frozen Tundra]

It is a great opportunity for Mannion, right now. For the Packers? Time will tell. Lots of smart players fail as coaches. Not all smart people make good teachers, and when all is said and done, coaches have to be good teachers.

MLF must have a feeling about him for sure, and if he is right it could turn out well for the Packers. I will be very interested in seeing how it goes. But for now it is a fairly meaningless hire for me.

I know I'm probably being overly optimistic about this, and your take on it is a pretty sensible counterpoint. Odds are, the ultimate outcome will land somewhere between my enthusiasm and your pragmatism. Usually the way the world works. Im just crossing my fingers and hoping the needle ends up pointing more toward the positive end of the scale.

It'll probably be a while before we really know, but yeah... as you say, it'll be interesting to watch this develop.

[Frozen Tundra]

Mannion is positioned to succeed Clemets as QB coach. That's what this is about.
I don't know if he'll be any good at coaching - FT's comments sure make it sound like he could be - but if MLF likes him and McVay & Co. drafted him in R3 then there's something there. If nothing else he can learn from Clements and carry on developing Jordan Love when Clements hangs it up for good. Dude is 70 and was living in AZ, he's probably not doing this much longer.

Is it Arizona? Sorry, I thought it was California for some reason. But yeah, at his age, I'm skeptical he'll be back in 25.

I guess we'll see how it turns out. I have high hopes, but try to keep them in perspective. I doubt he'll ever be another Tom Clements, because Clements seems to be a once-in-lifetime quarterbck guru - but even if he falls short of that, there's still plenty of room or him to turn out to be pretty good. I'm just hoping that he'll be a good replacement for Clements, even if he isn't Tom Clements II.

[The Shadow]

If Joe Whitt had only remained as a defensive coach, we could have had the Haf-Whitt Defense.

[Fritz]

If Joe Whitt had only remained as a defensive coach, we could have had the Haf-Whitt Defense.

Hh ha!

Very Whitty.

[Frozen Tundra]

If Joe Whitt had only remained as a defensive coach, we could have had the Haf-Whitt Defense.

I'm sure that the first bad game the defense plays, half the board will make his new nickname "Halfwit" anyway.

[Bretsky]

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1755255118289858673

If Rex Ryan really is open to a DC spot, it is gross negligence to not talk to him. I guess we don't know if he did, but c'mon, this is crazy to not hire that guy based on his track record of success.

I don't think the Flower wanted a strong personaity as his defensive coordinator. Hopefully this guy works out.

From the sounds of it, GB did not attempt to reach out to Jimmy Jimmy Jimmy this round

[Joemailman]

Good stuff with Andy Herman interviewing Justis Mosqueda about the defensive adjustments Packers will be going through in 2024.

[Deputy Nutz]

I don't think the Flower wanted a strong personaity as his defensive coordinator. Hopefully this guy works out.

From the sounds of it, GB did not attempt to reach out to Jimmy Jimmy Jimmy this round

As we all know, JL is now in Denver running their secondary. Means I am going to have to spend more time in Denver and gets some Bronco gear. I do know that JL did not want to return to College football. Obviously the landscaper of the once greatest sport on the planet is changing for the worse, and college coaches are bailing for the NFL. At least NFL players sign contracts and can't just get up and leave after 6 months when some other team offers them more money.

[call_me_ishmael]

I have a hunch JL burned the bridge with MILF the first go round. He never should have went to the media and I think it would have been fine. Or if he went to the media, don't say he was offered the job, just say the timing wasn't right, etc. Stupid on his part.

[bobblehead]

I have a hunch JL burned the bridge with MILF the first go round. He never should have went to the media and I think it would have been fine. Or if he went to the media, don't say he was offered the job, just say the timing wasn't right, etc. Stupid on his part.

Agreed, but so it holding grudges to the point it hurts oneself. Personally I think Jimmy was the best fit because he was a Wisconsin guy that probably would have loved to stay in the state. He probably would have been just a bit less likely to look for a HC job. Not saying he would have turned it down if offered the moon, just that we probably could have kept him for awhile.

Sometimes it makes sense to rule out a guy based on personal reasons, but more often you hurt yourself.

[Deputy Nutz]

I have a hunch JL burned the bridge with MILF the first go round. He never should have went to the media and I think it would have been fine. Or if he went to the media, don't say he was offered the job, just say the timing wasn't right, etc. Stupid on his part.

Wrong.

[call_me_ishmael]

Wrong.

Share what you know. Mine is pure conjecture. I still think going to the media and saying "listen they offered me the job, I didn't want it" was some bush league BS.

[run pMc]

Do you think Leonhard could get a HC gig in college? If so, why didn't he?
Why did he take a DB coaching gig in the pros?

My guess is he sees the transfer portal/NIL nonsense and decided he wanted a 9-5 for at least part of the year (i.e., now) in the pros, but the best he could get after the last round of interviews was a positional coach job, not a DC job. It's entirely possible his time as an analyst made him a less-hot prospect, but the smoke around the Packers DC interviews does make you wonder. It feels like an overreaction for NO team to interview the guy for DC, but who knows. MLF wasn't bringing him in to get rejected again.