Official Fire Jeff Hafley Thread

[Fritz]

Damn, Tex was right about you being a lions fan!!

[Jaire]

Jaire has struggled against A.J. Brown types though even that has been a few years. He also was clearly not happy with Barry and not being used correctly. And Brown is underrated imo. not worried about Jaire especially if he's not falling down every other play on the Sao Paulo soccer sod.

Also, not worried about the defense. It's basically a preseason game on a slip and slide with a very young roster. I saw a lot I liked. They know they have a lot to clean up too. And Philly imo is front runner in the NFC (though Detroit looked really good last night).

[run pMc]

Bad tackling on the pro level is usually considered the player's fault, not the DC's. The CBA has so many limits on practice you can't really teach/coach tackling fundamentals a lot.
You can improve at tackling, some players are just good (or bad) at it. Swapping McKinney for Savage should result in an improvement. Devonte Wyatt and Keisean Nixon have high missed tackle percentages. If GB is in the middle, I'm not surprised.

And yes, I assumed this thread was created as a joke and was playing along. Being a DC basically makes you a whipping boy with how the rules have emphasized the passing game and more scoring. Almost every fanbase complains about their DC, especially after a loss.

[MadtownPacker]

Oh, I don't know about that, Joe. On the three plays I watched of the Loins last night, they made good, hard tackles right away on all three plays. Therefore the Loins tackle well. Statistics, shmatistics.

Damn, Tex was right about you being a lions fan!!

[Fritz]

According to Pro Football Reference, missed tackles ranged from 63 (Cowboys) to 131 (Panthers). The Packers were about in the middle with 101. Those rough and tough Lions were pretty near the bottom with 124.

Oh, I don't know about that, Joe. On the three plays I watched of the Loins last night, they made good, hard tackles right away on all three plays. Therefore the Loins tackle well. Statistics, shmatistics.

[Joemailman]

Is our tackling really that much worse than other teams?

Our offensive players make the other team miss every game. Are we biased when it happens the other way around?

According to Pro Football Reference, missed tackles ranged from 63 (Cowboys) to 131 (Panthers). The Packers were about in the middle with 101. Those rough and tough Lions were pretty near the bottom with 124.

[sharpe1027]

Is our tackling really that much worse than other teams?

Our offensive players make the other team miss every game. Are we biased when it happens the other way around?

[Tony Oday]

I will hold my criticisms of the Defensive Tackling until they are on a real NFL surface.

[bobblehead]

Fritz we have had a generation of OC/QB coaches as Head coaches. In likelihood they don't want their precious talent hurt during practices and camps. We need a practice squad of guys willing to be tackled in practice I think. That first season MiLF ran a more intense camp. Shorter more physical practices. I bet Dan Campbell allows contact in practice. It wouldn't shock me if he hides Goffs red vest.

Edit: Let me see if McKinney regresses as a tackler as the season progresses. That would lend credence to my theory (yes, its just a theory. I have no clue why we can't tackle.)

[Fritz]

It doesn't seem to matter who the defensive coordinator is; the Packers just never seem to tackle very well.

Conversely, it doesn't ever seem to matter who's coaching the Bears, they seem to be able to tackle consistently.

I think the heat is on Half-Assley already. You got no time for "they're still learning the system" after shoveling us loads and loads about how this system is simpler so the players can "play fast." They need to play hard and fast - oh, and not look like a clown show when it comes to tackling.

If they make the talented-but-wildly-erratic Anthony Richardson look like an All Pro in Green Bay, there's gonna be an awful, awful lot of booing raining down from the stands.

[Patler]

Did he really get "Notoriety"?

From M-W
"Notoriety
1: the quality or state of being notorious"

"Notorious
: - generally known and talked of, e.g.
'iron is a notorious conductor of heat'"


So, in answer to your question, - "Yes!"

[MadtownPacker]

Have never seen what the Jaire fuss was about. He is just a highlight reel player. He is not a grinder or heart of the defense type. One of the players that should have been replaced.

[red]

Did he really get "Notoriety"?



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no·to·ri·e·ty
/ˌnōdəˈrīədē/
noun
the state of being famous or well known for some bad quality or deed.
"the song has gained some notoriety in the press"

running his mouth non stop and prancing around the field after every play like he's gods gift to football?

[Rastak]

I have always been of a slightly different opinion, that he never really was the player he was made out to be. He had a career year at the right time, and it enticed the Packers to overpay significantly, and the impact of that contract gave him notoriety that he had not earned and has not lived up to. He is capable of great games, and has had quite a few, but something is lacking on consistency in his game,

Did he really get "Notoriety"?



Dictionary
Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more
no·to·ri·e·ty
/ˌnōdəˈrīədē/
noun
the state of being famous or well known for some bad quality or deed.
"the song has gained some notoriety in the press"

[bobblehead]

I have always been of a slightly different opinion, that he never really was the player he was made out to be. He had a career year at the right time, and it enticed the Packers to overpay significantly, and the impact of that contract gave him notoriety that he had not earned and has not lived up to. He is capable of great games, and has had quite a few, but something is lacking on consistency in his game,

You forgot "but feels he so rightly deserves"