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Not really. In the end its about the players and the way the coordinators advance the scheme. Playing a boring, non creative defense is bad no matter how you line up.Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post4-3 > 3-4. Do the math.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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I think he stole that from Joe Barry.Originally posted by George Cumby View PostI can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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Hmmm....So many things I want to say, but can't.Originally posted by MadtownPacker View PostStarting to wonder if we are seeing all of Barry’s hard work coming to fruition and Halfey come lately is just riding the wave.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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That's what I said to my first wife after three years of marriage and her wondering how my mistress could possibly think I was good in bed.Originally posted by bobblehead View PostAnyone who wants to see the difference between Barry and Halfwit just pay attention to Wyatt. Its not a 3rd year jump, its playing to strengths.
Yeah, there's always that "if Barry had had the players the new guy has . . . " but he had a bunch of his own first and second round picks, and he turned them into soft poo.
The way Barry sat back and waited - couldn't you just see Tennessee dinking and dunking down the field, over and over, until they won the game? Barry playing soft, soft, soft - then suddenly dialing up a blitz that gets picked up and BAM, the dagger.
No thank you. Let's see how Half-Assley does, but so far, so good."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
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Per ESPN Radio, in his several seasons in GB Joe Barry'd defense gave up over 30 points 4 times.
This year Hatley's defense has given up over 30 points three times. We looked Barry Like versus DetroitTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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Yikes. I wonder how they rank. It doesn't seem like the D is any good.Originally posted by Bretsky View PostPer ESPN Radio, in his several seasons in GB Joe Barry'd defense gave up over 30 points 4 times.
This year Hatley's defense has given up over 30 points three times. We looked Barry Like versus Detroit
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If that is what they said, I suggest that you not rely on ESPN radio.Originally posted by Bretsky View PostPer ESPN Radio, in his several seasons in GB Joe Barry'd defense gave up over 30 points 4 times.
This year Hatley's defense has given up over 30 points three times. We looked Barry Like versus Detroit
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Yeah, by my count Barry's defenses gave up more than 30 8 times and exactly 30 twice.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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One issue with the points scored metric is that if you play at a slow pace (MLF and especially AR offenses are slow paced) that speeds up the game, which means less possessions and less opportunities to score points.
I'd be more inclined to look at points per drive allowed or other metrics in addition to points scored. People have poo-poo'd opposed QB rating as a metric, but I haven't heard why. I'd think 3rd and 4th down conversion rates could provide a good idea of how good a defense is at getting off the field.
A stat is more meaningful when it has context.
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