Who Should Gute Draft At #25? 1.0

[Fritz]

Yeah, like that Bakhtieri guy! He was terrible!

[sharpe1027]

Safety doesn't seem as critical anymore.

[texaspackerbacker]

Yeah, like that Bakhtieri guy! He was terrible!

No, I was thinking of Sherrod and Mandarich and probably a few other high drafted O Linemen that were big nothings.

All I will say about Bakhtiari is that I'm more concerned about losing Runyan than him. It seems, though, that the Giants overpaid for Runyan.

Yes, Safety is not as critical. Pairing McKinney with Ford and/or Owens and/or Johnson should be more than adequate. I think they draft a Safety maybe 3rd or 4th, though.

[bobblehead]

The problem is if other teams see this too, who's going to trade up?

GMs are like fans. They fall in love with players too. Many of them just aren't that smart.

[Fritz]

No, I was thinking of Sherrod and Mandarich and probably a few other high drafted O Linemen that were big nothings.

All I will say about Bakhtiari is that I'm more concerned about losing Runyan than him. It seems, though, that the Giants overpaid for Runyan.

Yes, Safety is not as critical. Pairing McKinney with Ford and/or Owens and/or Johnson should be more than adequate. I think they draft a Safety maybe 3rd or 4th, though.

Sherrod got a bad rap. He really had a horrible injury before he had a chance to prove himself.

[sharpe1027]

GMs are like fans. They fall in love with players too. Many of them just aren't that smart.

This is true. I'm not saying they can't trade down, but they need someone that wants to trade up badly enough to offer sufficient value. It's not always the case.

[red]

Safety doesn't seem as critical anymore.

still need a second starter

[Joemailman]

still need a second starter

I hope they sign Rudy Ford. I actually thought he played better than Owens before he got hurt. And they'll be drafting at least one.

[Sparkey]

Cooper DeJean - plug and play slot cb / safety - incredible ball skills and intangibles
Troy Fautanu - instant plus starter at guard, but able to play tackle as well
Ruke Orhorhoro - raw but exciting DT that is still learning the game - sky is the ceiling type of athlete

in that order of preference.

[bobblehead]

This is true. I'm not saying they can't trade down, but they need someone that wants to trade up badly enough to offer sufficient value. It's not always the case.

Agree, which was why I added "if someone gives us value". It takes 2 to tango. If they stay right where they are, they should have a chance to get a really good player....although I am starting to think Mims goes top 15 after watching him move. Guy is just a physical monster.

[bobblehead]

I hope they sign Rudy Ford. I actually thought he played better than Owens before he got hurt. And they'll be drafting at least one.

Agree. I'd like him on ST and as the 3rd safety in a pinch.

[Jaire]

I'm hoping they grab Murphy or one of the Robinsons. They have capital to move up if all three are going off the board. Let Hafley work his magic on the back end with what we have and a later pick db.

[red]

dejean just looks and sounds too perfect for what we need

trade up to get him if you have to

[texaspackerbacker]

Now that they have signed McKinney and supposedly are shopping around for another FA Safety, I doubt they draft a Safety, Dejean or other in the first or second round. I said before we ever got McKinney that I was hoping they go the FA route, as Safety is one of those positions where hotshot college players don't often translate to great pros, at least not in their early years.

What do we need most with the new D coordinator? Still hard to say. It's a lot easier to say a lot of position groups we don't need. The biggest needs are probably RB and ILB, neither of which is usually a good idea to take in the first round.

[Bretsky]

dejean just looks and sounds too perfect for what we need

trade up to get him if you have to

I would agree with the good fit

A week before FA they asked Wilde and Tauscher for the dream scenario for our secondary.

They said, get the Giants guy in FA and then follow up with DeJean and that would be the perfect scenario. THe first step is done.