Aaron Jones Being Released

[bobblehead]

Whether he's an intelligent man or not, my point was I don't think he's a stupid enough man to believe that this would somehow make people angry at the team. Why would it? If Gutekunst had good reason to believe that Jones wasn't healthy enough to pay him $11,000,000, why would that piss fans off? Only an idiot would think the fans are going to rise up like, "Oh, poor Aaron, how dare Gutekunst not want to take care of him." That'd just be stupid; of course the fans would support not spending that kind of money on an injured player.

Maybe, maybe not. We just have no idea what is true unless a guy goes on the record. In the end if we win Gutes is awesome and if we don't he blows. Want fans to get over trading Rodgers, have Love turn into a winner. Want to get over Jones, make the Owl with Jacobs. Its really all us fans care about in the end. I once worked for a bar manager that was a prick, but he ran a good bar and the tips were outrageous. I was ok with his attitude.

[bobblehead]

There are also pro athletes who take a complete hands-off approach, leaving everything up to agents and advisors for negotiations. They don't even want to know the give-and-take that goes on, just having final approval on the best deal his people think they can get.

Leaks, lies and exaggerations often come from the agents, not the players directly; or from the players "inner circle" or as we have often seen, family members who may or may not know the facts.

Are you telling me that Greg Jennings sister didn't understand offensive schemes better than Rodgers did?? The hell you say.

[smuggler]

Curious; which is a bigger punch in the Sack ?

Gutebag asking Jordy to come back at 2 Million / Year ? Which in retrospect, choosing to sign Jimmy for 10MIL/Year instead of giving Jordy, who wanted to stay in GB, a reduced wage of around 5-6..... who had 60 catches for a shit team that year, was a bad call

OR

Gutebag asking Jones to come back at 4 Million ?


The second call might turn out to be the right now. The first was not.

The Packers never asked Jordy to come back on $2/year. In fact, they paid him $2.88 million for his 2018 season in Oakland.

They wanted him back at ~$3 million more than that, but the problem was the Raiders ended up paying Jordy about $10.2 million for one season.

If you're Jordy, do you prefer $5.9 mil from the Packers for 2018 (fair price), or $13 mil from the Packers and Raiders in 2018 (hilariously overpriced)?

Can't blame Jordy for taking the money, but don't act like Green Bay lowballed him. And Jordy actually played every snap when he dressed for games, unlike Jones.

[run pMc]

Once-greats in the twilight of their careers with expiring contracts rarely resign with the same team, because they will be offered much less than the last year of their prior contract AND some other team is going to overpay for them. It's pride, and a last chance cash grab - I honestly don't blame them for it.
Letting him go get paid double and getting to live in the Bay Area is honestly doing Jordy a favor.

Jordy was a great player for GB, but he wasn't worth 10M in his last season. We're laughing at Lazard's contract and (no offense to Lazard) he wasn't half the player Jordy was.

GB's entire WR corps made $10M last season (lol) and is the envy of many in the league.

[Fritz]

Are you telling me that Greg Jennings sister didn't understand offensive schemes better than Rodgers did?? The hell you say.

Two things, Bobble. Let me edumucate you. First, as far as meeting celebrities, the key is that we generally meet them once. I love that Terrell Owens was cool, and all power to him. But Jeter - maybe he had a hemmhoroid that day, or he just found out his mom was having an affair with his best friend; I don't know. Or maybe he IS an asshole. I have no idea. But meeting someone once - it's maybe not a good idea to judge that, although I agree with your implicit assumption that celebrities KNOW this and really ought to be on their best behavior with the public. But they're human. And like I said, Derek Jeter may well be an asshole. Your perception might be right.

But on to my bigger point: it is a little know FACT that Greg Jennings's sister is, in fact, Aaron Rodgers. Don't aks me how I know that; just know it's true. So yes, Greg Jennings's sister does understand offensive schemes, not better than Aaron Rodgers, but just as well.

[red]

Two things, Bobble. Let me edumucate you. First, as far as meeting celebrities, the key is that we generally meet them once. I love that Terrell Owens was cool, and all power to him. But Jeter - maybe he had a hemmhoroid that day, or he just found out his mom was having an affair with his best friend; I don't know. Or maybe he IS an asshole. I have no idea. But meeting someone once - it's maybe not a good idea to judge that, although I agree with your implicit assumption that celebrities KNOW this and really ought to be on their best behavior with the public. But they're human. And like I said, Derek Jeter may well be an asshole. Your perception might be right.

But on to my bigger point: it is a little know FACT that Greg Jennings's sister is, in fact, Aaron Rodgers. Don't aks me how I know that; just know it's true. So yes, Greg Jennings's sister does understand offensive schemes, not better than Aaron Rodgers, but just as well.

i've never liked jeter ever since he gave jessica alba herpes

prick

[Bretsky]

The Packers never asked Jordy to come back on $2/year. In fact, they paid him $2.88 million for his 2018 season in Oakland.

They wanted him back at ~$3 million more than that, but the problem was the Raiders ended up paying Jordy about $10.2 million for one season.

If you're Jordy, do you prefer $5.9 mil from the Packers for 2018 (fair price), or $13 mil from the Packers and Raiders in 2018 (hilariously overpriced)?

Can't blame Jordy for taking the money, but don't act like Green Bay lowballed him. And Jordy actually played every snap when he dressed for games, unlike Jones.

Who is your source on what GB offered Jorday Nelson ? I thoght they had offered him 5MIL at the time too til this year but I think that was put out there by GB.

[Fritz]

i've never liked jeter ever since he gave jessica alba herpes

prick

Oh.

Okay, so he's a diseased dick.

And Bobble was right.

[smuggler]

Who is your source on what GB offered Jorday Nelson ? I thoght they had offered him 5MIL at the time too til this year but I think that was put out there by GB.

If they offered him $2mil on a new signing, that's $4.8m total. How little do you think they offered him? 2 or 3 seems reasonable and a conservative estimate.

[bobblehead]

Oh.

Okay, so he's a diseased dick.

And Bobble was right.

I'll agree its not fair to judge a person based on one meeting in a casino no less, but I can give 2 examples that speak to character. TO telling his posse to stop cursing in front of women. Thats not nothing in my book (plus he was super nice to EVERYONE). Jeter acted like the high school jock you wanted to punch in the face (unless you are Nutz, in which case you WERE that guy...kidding nutz). He belittled his "friends", had a general arrogance, and stiffed the waitress that brought him a drink. I asked her later if anyone in his crew took care of her and she said no. Ball busting among friends is awesome. With the Jeter "crew" it was him being a dick and his posse telling him he was great. Its a snapshot, but its an ugly snapshot.

[Fritz]

That is ugly. He sounds like he was a real Richard.

[Bretsky]

Does any of this really matter or is this just us whiling away the time until the draft talk really heats up?

It doesn't matter; but forums are boring w/o pot stirring

Honestly, if anybody doesn't realize Gutey is Heartless they have not been paying attention.

And so be it; be heartless, as long as you can get us a championship or two

He's been here 8 years now. BOth Ron and Ted had one already.

Get to it Guetbag !!

[Joemailman]

It doesn't matter; but forums are boring w/o pot stirring

Honestly, if anybody doesn't realize Gutey is Heartless they have not been paying attention.

And so be it; be heartless, as long as you can get us a championship or two

He's been here 8 years now. BOth Ron and Ted had one already.

Get to it Guetbag !!

He's not heartless. But he can't afford to be sentimental. There's a difference.

[Bretsky]

If they offered him $2mil on a new signing, that's $4.8m total. How little do you think they offered him? 2 or 3 seems reasonable and a conservative estimate.

They wanted to Jordy to come back at a base salary of 2 MIL/year. Gutie has no interest in bringing Nelson back. It's water under the bridge now, but that is what I've heard a few say what he was offfered. A couple sports guys from the media, the most credible one of which is Wilde, who had a ton of ins with Jordy Nelson, Devonte Adams, and even Rodgers....although his relationship with Rodgers has soured the past 5 years.

[Bretsky]

He's not heartless. But he can't afford to be sentimental. There's a difference.

maybe, or maybe he's somethwere in between. REgardless we'll all embrace him once he wins a SB